Friday 23 November 2012

ATHEISM, AGNOTICISM AND CLASH OF CIVILISATIONS 2012

ATHEISM, AGNOSTICISM AND CLASH OF CIVILISATIONS.

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My very dear Anne

I often listen to “Children of a lesser god” sung by Mark Glenn and Family.  It inspires me to pay more attention to my writings.   

Today, what many of us have witnessed is that Atheists in general or Satanists like the so-called Judeo Christians, Jews, Judaists, Talmudists, Evangelists, Zionists, Humanists, Socialists, Nationalists, Democrats, Republicans, Labour, Liberal, Racists, Fascists, Agnostics, Neo-Darwinists, etc. have been trying for quite some time after their bogus Cold War between the identical twins Capitalism and Communism to cause a real “CLASH OF CIVILISATIONS” between Christianity and Islam, between Christians of Christ (not of Satan) and Muslims.   

I need to stress that what is called Humanism is in fact a monstrous ideology set up by Atheists and Satan worshippers to destroy religion and God and take them out completely of our public school system and confined to the home only.


CROSS AND CRESCENT

Why such a clash?  Only Christianity and Islam have in essence real and valid concepts of love, freedom, justice, universal brotherhood and peaceful co-existence in a moral world even if in practice these are not seen to be the rule of governance today because Atheist materialism and corporatism are ruling the world. 

I do not particularly like Roman Catholic Church imperialist, racist and colonialist past, but Christendom had inherited from its Greco-Rome past a series of legislation whereby there was only one concept or definition of crime for all, based on the crime itself and punishable equally, whoever committed it or wherever it was committed.

A certain understanding of Christian doctrine akin to Islam added to this Greco Roman or Roman concept of justice one essential and sine qua non criterion: that of intent either for aggravating the circumstances under which the act said to be of a criminal nature has been committed or for attenuating those same circumstances.  The spirit behind this is the Will and Pleasure of God and Divine Justice, ADL, an Islamic concept called Equity in the West.  To this day, in the US, why is God still mentioned during criminal proceedings?  Our Western Common Law comes from God-given or inspired Laws.  For this very reason I like to say that I stand under Common law as a sovereign and freeman-on-the-land.  I bow down to no (Godless) government and never voted in my entire life, and never ‘belonged’ to any religious or political group.   

But, in our modern Godless, Atheist world where an act that was not by definition a crime (like, for example, self-defence for the preservation of life, private property, country and way of life) was originally not defined in essence as a crime and committed without any criminal intention, is regarded as a crime a posteriori depending on the politics of the day, depending who committed it, where, when and why.   The man-made laws are constantly being expanded to meet new situations, but which never lead to Justice, only to total slavery, total control (electronic, chemical and biological), and total domination, physical, mental and ideological.  Might and Atheism are always right and the State has replaced God.   Atheists are well known to worship the State although it is also true that both Christians and Muslims are known to collaborate with and be subservient to the Godless State


THE AMERICAN WHORE: “STAND AND DELIVER”

Six recent blatant cases out of many are:

America (The West) versus The Holy Land (Palestine)
America (The West) versus Saddam Hussain (Iraq)
America (The West) versus Usama Bin Ladin (Afghanistan)
America (The West) versus Muammar al Ghaddafi (Libya)
America (The West) versus Bashar al Asad (Syria)
America (The West) versus Mahmoud Ahmedinejad (Iran)

This is not a coincidence that the ‘Western’ major targets are Muslim countries and Islam.  But, in the name of what God-Given Law or Justice

  1. Does the West have the right to establish Israel on stolen Palestinian land?
  2. Does the West have the right to threaten, invade, bomb, occupy, plunder, steal and destroy Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya and their wealth, terrorise and massacre their populations?
  3. Does the West have the right to start similar operations in Syria?
  4. Does the West have the right to threaten to do the same with Iran and any other country that refuses to comply with their dictatorial and totalitarian demands?
  5. Does the West and its Allies have the right to pollute the planet with their nuclear explosions and bombings?


This is what can be termed as Judeo Talmudist and Marxist Justice where the concept of Justice is being continuously re-defined as the war mongering super military powers move on with their expansions, conquests and hegemony! 

What America, the Godless whore wants with the leading help of the United Nations Dictatorship, International Jewry and other fanatical Sects is total ownership of the world and of its wealth; total control of all Muslim countries and the destruction of both Christianity and Islam and their removal from all the State apparatus, and from all the top and leading institutions in all fields.  


Mind you, Anne, the above views have been arrived at thanks to several decades of experience, costly research and deep insight in the affairs of humans living on this planet and of their respective political and religious leaderships.  If this is not understood and fought successfully, there will never be peace again in the world, and a moral and natural world to live in.  One person cannot invent morality unless he is a kind of Prophet said to be inspired by God or some Invisible Power. 

The world is currently under the despotic and Satanic domination and exploitation of the Jewish Qabbalah and Freemasonry, Rosicrucian and Astrological Cults, all led by International Bank gangsters and their Industrial Military Complex and Corporations, various International crime Syndicates while the world masses are being continuously bombarded with television, “the news”, corporate sports and other time wasting distractions, drugs and immorality, and a State mind controlling institution called the Public Educational System where the schools are run mostly by and for Corporations and the Military Industrial Complex.


When I see so many of those two legged mammals pointing out to the invalidity or falseness of both Christianity and Islam, of religion and God, I can clearly see how they miss the point completely because it does not matter in the least whether God exists or not, whether Christianity or Islam have solid foundations or not, but what really matters if we have anything better to replace them.  The answer is very clear.  There is none!  Whether Jesus existed or not, the truth of the matter is that inspired men and women of old found out the best way to lead a peaceful life by loving our neighbour.  The truth of the image of Jesus Christ whipping the money changers (our modern usurious bank gangsters!) and licking them out of the Temple is valid today.  Who can deny this except the usurers and those who prosper thanks to usury?  We should give credit where it belongs.  Both Christianity (2000 years ago) and Islam (1400 years ago) denounced the evil deeds of Jews.  Atheism did not!  

All that we have seen replacing religion and God are ideologies that favour abominations like usury, homosexuality, prostitution, baby murder (abortion), gambling, lotteries, drugs including alcohol and cigarettes, wars, genocide, ethnic cleansings, global plunder, rampant crime with little or no punishment, incest, paedophilia, pollution, slavery, mind control, thefts through usury and other fraudulent means (like more and more taxes), a prison culture, orchestrated famines and mass extermination, deadly vaccines, and so on.         

Of course, for both Christians and Muslims it does matter that God and a Judgement Day exist, and that both Christianity and Islam come from God, but the so-called believers should not open their mouths too much given the present state of both religious communities.  Both Christendom and the Ummah of Muhammad are decadent (in the West in particular and countries controlled by the West) and serving other Gods even if Muslims are seen as more practising than their Christian Brothers and Sisters, and although they too are practicing like the Christians a half dead religion subservient to Atheist domination.   

After writing this with a sincere heart, I am re-enforced in my conviction that Atheism is not a better solution for humankind than non Sectarian and non organised Christianity or Islam. With regards to your question: 

“So which do you prefer? Is it the atheist who does not believe in a god or gods, just because it makes no sense, or do you prefer the church-attending believer, who “sins”, i.e., murders, steals, commits adultery, knowing he or she can easily be forgiven?”

It would be utterly wrong for us to compare a good Atheist with a bad Christian or a bad Muslim!  That concept that Christian sinners (and criminals) can be forgiven or are forgiven just because they “believe in Christ” is just foolish and a fabrication!
Well, I believe I should stop here.  Please, forgive me if I have said anything that might have hurt anybody with a good and loving heart, and feel free to let me know if I have made any incorrect statements (quoting me and with backing evidence). 

Much love
Basheer
24th of November 2012
The above essay was dedicated to Anne Beck of “The Ugly Truth” and others.
* All the above art pictures are borrowed from the website "infected".

#14 by annebeck58 on November 24, 2012 - 3:31 pm
It’s okay, Basheer.
I mean, it’s not like I recruit or anything.
I’ve just seen a lot more ugly come out of particular American churches and synagogues than I have seen come out of the rest of the community.

Still, this has nothing to do with me being atheist.


My Reply It looks like my friend "Anne Beck" has not understood anything of the above!  Very sad!  This is exactly the very root cause of the disease most of us are suffering from.

“The true nature of Israel and her enablers” from John Friend's Blog



1.      #7 by annebeck58 on November 23, 2012 - 2:07 am
Vickie #6:
I am not sure which shoes you think I wear, but I gave up on religion when I was about twenty. I’m now 54. I’m an atheist and happily so. I did study the bible, for years, and have been told more than once, “you’re the only atheist I know who quotes bible verses” in arguments. Surely, though, most atheists I know (of a certain age) also belonged to one church or another for part of their lives.
I attended parochial (Catholic) school until I began my university years, in a Texas Christian university (though not TCU), in Abilene. I learned a lot there. Mainly, I learned a lot about my fellow Christians, and it was a lot of ugly I encountered. After a few more years, I realized that all of the bible-study and trying to believe what I was saying to others was not going to cause me to ever believe it. So, I stepped out and proclaimed to the world, I am an atheist; love me or not.
Probably the craziest thing I learned in Catholic school was that we were to love Jews and support Zionism. I was taught the same at the Church of Christ school. It made little sense to me. It also took me a long time to even comprehend what in the world a “Christian Zionist” was.
And it took me longer to figure out that the attacks on the people of Palestine have very little to do with religion. They are all about the land. Israel wants it and they have no qualms about murdering people to get it. Yes, they use religion as their excuse, but that is really a cover-up for their crimes. It’s as much a lie as is the story, “Palestinians are terrorists”, when anyone can see that the Palestinians are under terrorist rule by their captors: Izrahell.
How I wish I could convince many more of this truth. If so, I believe the people of all of Palestine could be free. But, I do not know if it’ll happen in my lifetime, or if ever. And this really makes me angry- and sad, too.
2.      #8 by Vickie Jacobs on November 23, 2012 - 4:51 am
#7 “I am an atheist; love me or not.”

Greater love has no man than he see with his heart. There is a spirit there.
3.      #9 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 23, 2012 - 6:06 pm
#7 by annebeck58 on November 23, 2012 – 2:07 am
” I’m an atheist and happily so.”
SORRY, LOVE, but this is utter nonsense and a very selfish and irresponsible thing to say!
I have written extensively about those who claim they are “ATHEISTS” and prove them ALL wrong all the time. And to be a “happy” Atheist is an oxymoron! Atheism is a personal and individual matter while religion is a collective and societal matter. Of course, one can find “happiness” in Atheism, but this is a very selfish and individualistic concept because Atheism has no valid answer to the countless problems of our society and our world.
The war and rhetoric against religion, meaning mainly Christianity and Islam, mask the Evil that so-called Atheism has done, for example very recently.
First, I need to point out that religion was NOT responsible for the massacres perpetrated by the Roman Empire, then by the decadent Europeans: Slavery, Imperialism, Colonialism, Neo-Colonialism, Racism, Fascism, Socialism, Communism, Marxism, Leninism, Maoism, Humanism, Liberalism, Nationalism, Freudism, Democracy, etc.
Now, it is true that I can also prove MANY (not all!) religious people wrong because of their ignorance, their fanaticism, their blindness, their stubbornness, but it is not because of their religion. Both Islam and Christianity preach justice and this includes freedom, love and sharing with others and not stealing or lying or showing disrespect.
Atheism has no leg to stand on as History has proven already that it is for the most part either AMORAL or IMMORAL people and has not proposed a better way of life for humans than religion. Tibetans are Buddhists. Is it not Chinese Communism (Maoism) and Imperialism that are responsible for the massacre and the occupation of Tibet, and the rape of Tibetan women?
Having said that, the worse religion known to man is JUDAISM, but this never posed any problem as long as the Judaists who call themselves Jews were not in a position of power. They betrayed Muslims right from day one and afterward Muslims never allowed them (as far as I know) any chance to repeat this until the Ottomans became decadent.
Jews betrayed Christians hundreds of times, but because of its decadence, Christendom allowed them not only back into their lands, but also gave them ABSOLUTE POWER over their lands and peoples. Maybe, you are not aware that it is because of ATHEISM that the world is in such a mess today.
You should obtain more information about the Eugenicists, the Rockefeller, Carnegie, Rothschild, Fulbright and other similar tax exempt Foundations, to learn that they have a programme to destroy RELIGION in our Educational System and have been greatly successful; to destroy the FAMILY, our women’s FEMINITY, our men’s MASCULINITY, our NATURAL HUMANITY, not only make SLAVES of us all, but to also tamper with NATURE.
So, I am very sorry, love, but it is my advice that you should obtain more information about the real Evil of Atheism before making statements like the one you made. I am not preaching any religion, here, but simply making statements of provable facts.
Love
Basheer
4.      #10 by annebeck58 on November 23, 2012 - 8:22 pm
Oh, Basheer.
I say, “happily so”, as I threw off the yoke of the oppressed and feel much clearer, since.
I’ve probably been atheist all of my life. But, I did not accept this fact until I was about twenty years-old. As you may know, I am now 54, and I am just as happy with myself, or more-so, since.
I do not need an external, unseen, moral entity to guide me. I’ve been endowed, probably by my parents and via my interactions with many different people, with a very strong moral-compass. I do not think evil thoughts (well, not usually, and not generally evil.) I care about people. I like to qualify myself as a., “humanist”, but then I have people coming at me and saying Humanists (capitol H) are those who believe themselves gods.., and this is not exactly where I am coming from.
Simply put, Basheer, I care. I care because I am and not because someone or some book tells me I must care. It is just built into my being. I believe most people care, whether they believe in that unseen-entity or not. Of course, there are others who are quite evil, and many of them do believe.
So which do you prefer? Is it the atheist who does not believe in a god or gods, just because it makes no sense, or do you prefer the church-attending believer, who “sins”, i.e., murders, steals, commits adultery, knowing he or she can easily be forgiven?
I have to live with myself and my neighbors. I answer to myself and other citizens of this world and I do not worry about the, “next world”, because I do not believe it exists.
Like I have said many times, I am an atheist, but I am not what one could call a militant atheist. I do not disparage people for their beliefs and I do not think it’s right that anyone should call me names, based on mine. It is not that I, “don’t believe” in god(s). Rather, I do believe there is no god. And nothing anyone can or will say to me will change this. It is a part of who I am.
By the way, I did not let this cat out of the bag with the intention of starting arguments. I’ve played that game, in the past, and it’s not worth it to me.
Thank you for respecting who I am.
5.      #11 by Vickie Jacobs on November 24, 2012 - 12:33 am
When one sees how those with no heart are treating there fellow human beings……….they are the ones with no heart or love in their heart. They are the true atheist.
I really don’t find them here. That tells me whether they know it not…..they have a compassionate spirit. Those who are destroying their fellow human being are void of any God. That is an evil spirit.
6.      #12 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 24, 2012 - 6:00 am
#10 by annebeck58 on November 23, 2012 – 8:22 pm
“I do not need an external, unseen, moral entity to guide me.”
Exactly, love, and I totally agree with you, but it is again all about YOU, yourself as an individual. I do not think there is anything wrong being an Atheist and a happy one on the INDIVIDUAL level, and I am sure it can of course even be a salutary means of escaping a very bad predicament
But, on the collective level it simply does not work unless we can prove that humans let to themselves know exactly how to live in any given society without consultation and agreement on a given set of rules and regulations (laws). Collective Atheism has proved disastrous for humanity in our recent history and ongoing history-in-the-making.
Now, love, think about this.
I am nearly 13 years older than you. I can see you making a huge mistake when you speak of the uselessness of any “external” unseen, moral entity to guide you when the truth is obvious to me that you are yourself claiming or insinuating that some INTERNAL unseen moral entity is in fact guiding you as you are claiming that YOU are guiding your SELF! This is what Islam calls the natural ‘religion’ that the ‘Unseen’ God says He has put in each and every human being at birth (or maybe even before birth). Islam calls it FITRA and this is why we see so many people returning, reverting to the natural religion inside them (Islam) because they have won a victory over their own SELF, which Islam calls NAFS! The conquest of the Self is the greatest conquest of the believing and the righteous Muslim.
But, I do not wish to bore you anymore here. I think I’ll elaborate on this on my blog in an essay dedicated to you (and all Atheists and Agnostics), if you don’t mind, of course. Today is Saturday, the birthday of my wife. We are separated since 1997. She will be 74 and the family has travelled to Colchester to be with her leaving me some free time to write, hopefully or as Muslims say, insha’Allah.
Love
Basheer

N.B. I did not read the post “The true nature of Israel and her enablers”.
As a matter of fact, I visited John Friend’s Blog only after I had finished my essay and still haven’t time to read the post.I apologise for that.



 John Friend's Blog

Tuesday, November 20, 2012

The true nature of Israel and her enablers


Gilad Sharon, son of war criminal and former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, writing in The Jerusalem Post:
We need to flatten entire neighborhoods in Gaza. Flatten all of Gaza. The Americans didn't stop with Hiroshima – the Japanese weren't surrendering fast enough, so they hit Nagasaki, too.

There should be no electricity in Gaza, no gasoline or moving vehicles, nothing.
Jewish Telegraph Agency, “Israeli peace activist says Hamas’ Jabari received truce document – and Israel knew”:
Israeli peace activist Gershon Baskin said that hours before Israel assassinated Ahmed Jabari, the Hamas military leader received a draft of a permanent truce agreement with Israel
The draft also included mechanisms for maintaining a cease-fire during upticks in rocket fire between Gaza and Israel, the Israeli daily Haaretz reported Thursday, citing Baskin. He reportedly had a relationship with Hamas leaders after he helped negotiate a deal to release captured Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, who was held by Hamas in Gaza for more than five years. 
Israeli officials ordered the hit on Jabari despite knowing about the truce draft, Baskin told Haaretz. […]
Israeli Interior Minister Eli Yashai quoted in Haaretz:
The goal of the operation is to send Gaza back to the Middle Ages.

Electronic Intifada, “Dancing Israeli students chant “Death to the Arabs” at rally backing Gaza slaughter":
Israeli students at Haifa University danced and chanted Death to the Arabs at a rally on Sunday to support Israel’s bombardment of the Gaza Strip. [...]

Michael Ben-Ari, member of the Israeli Knesset, quoted in Russia Today:
“There are no innocents in Gaza, don’t let any diplomats who want to look good in the world endanger your lives – mow them down!”

From the same Russia Today article cited above, we learn:
A group of Israelis demonstrating in Tel Aviv on Thursday night shouted They don’t deserve to live, they need to die”, “May your children die” and “Now we want to go back there [Gaza] and kick out all the Arabs.

Al Arabiya News, “Obama supports Israeli right to defend itself amid Gaza truce talk”:
"Israel has every right to expect that it does not have missiles fired into its territory,” Obama said, adding, "if that can be accomplished without a ramping up of military activity in Gaza, that is preferable."
Israeli Ambassador to the United States, Michael Oren, quoted in The Guardian:
"The United States has given us the full backing to take whatever measures are necessary to defend our citizens from Hamas terror," he said. "Israel has received unequivocal and outstanding support from the United States and all branches of government. From the White House, from Congress, in both parties, completely bipartisan support."
Jerusalem Post, "Polls: Huge support for operation, not invasion":
A poll taken by Panels for the Israeli Center for Political Training found that 85 percent of Israelis believe embarking on the operation was the correct decision. But when asked what should happen next, 45% said to continue air strikes, 22% said to seek a cease-fire and just 25% recommended a ground offensive.

A Dialog poll taken for Haaretz had similar results, with 84% supporting the operation, 39% saying it should be continued by air, 19% calling for an immediate cease-fire and 30% backing a ground operation.

A Midgam poll taken for Channel 10 on Thursday, the first full day of the operation, found that 91% of Israelis supported it. Seventy-six percent called for it to continue and 22% said to seek a cease-fire.

Netanyahu and Barak fared well in all of the polls, which showed that an overwhelming majority of Israelis do not believe they began the operation for political reasons.

15 comments:

 

ERIC HUFSCHMID

Another world war averted? Or just a coincidence?
26 November 2011
“When... uhh, if ... Hamas attacks us, we have the right to defend ourselves!”
A brief summary of Mideast events during November 2012:
• Hamas launches rockets at Israel.
• Israel prepares for war, with 70,000 reservists.
Palestinians execute 6 Israeli spies.
• Israel cancels Gaza invasion.
Can you figure out what happened?

Some details:
Mysterious Palestinian terrorists have fired more than 800 rockets into Israel over the past year. How would you feel if Mexico or Canada fired 800 rockets every year into America? The rocket attacks increased in November, and the Israelis decided that they have had enough of the abuse. The Israeli government moved their military to Gaza border and called up 70,000 reservists in preparation for an attack. Jews on message boards became excited at the possibility that the war in Gaza would escalate into a world war. For example, the owner (Jason Lucas?) of Godlikeproductions posted a message with the title "This is how the middle east situation will escalate out of control". His message generated 33 pages of responses.  In one of his messages he proudly boasted that he had inside information about how the Gaza war would evolve into a world war.
A cease-fire was soon called, and Netanyahu threatened military action if Hamas continues to attack Israel. Many Jews excitedly predicted that the Palestinian terrorists would soon fire rockets into Israel during the cease-fire, thereby giving Israel the justification to attack Gaza.
However, instead of attacking Israel, some Palestinians executed six "Israeli spies". Jews around the world became disappointed, angry, and frustrated by the peace and calm, and Jason Lucas quickly erased all of his messages. You can only find portions of his messages by doing a Google search, such as in the screen image below:


 
His first message is in the box below. A copy was posted by "Asphalt Cowboy" and is still in the Google cache here, (scroll down to number 16). Or is Jason Lucas the Asphalt Cowboy? Imagine if there was no anonymity on the Internet. We would know exactly who is promoting this propaganda.
This is how the middle east situation will escalate out of control.... Hamas has MORE than just extra long range "dumb rockets" that can reach Tel Aviv..
They have GUIDED MISSILES, provided by Iran..
They have NOT used them YET....
When they do?
And they will when the ground war starts....
It will be a strike agains the Israeli Dimona nuclear plant...
It will be a hit.. and it will be a fukashima style disaster...
After that?
Samson option.....
look it up.....
- so mark my words... 
IF / WHEN you see the Israeli nuclear plant take a hit from several guided missiles at once then you will know it's only a matter of HOURS before world war three officially begins...
If Jason Lucas was correct...
... then perhaps some Jews in Iran had provided some Jews in Palestine with Iranian missiles. The Jews were planning to fire those missiles at the Dimona nuclear plant during the cease-fire, and claim that Hamas had fired them. The Jews in Israel would set off explosions in their nuclear plant to ensure that radiation spreads around the Middle East (apparently as they did in Japan). Israel would blame Iran for providing the missiles to Hamas terrorists. Virtually every Jew in the world would react by pointing out that the entire world is at risk because of that radiation, and they would whine that the Muslims are trying to "wipe Israel off the map" and exterminate the innocent, loving, and generous Israelis. Jews everywhere would claim that a war against Iran and the Arabs is finally justified, and every nation would be under pressure to defend Israel and exterminate the disgusting, murderous Muslims. The Jews in Russia and China would try to get those nations to defend Iran and Syria, thereby tricking the world into a nuclear war.

Israel called up 70,000 reservists because they were preparing for a war with Iran and a slaughter of Arabs in Gaza, Lebanon, and elsewhere. Israel didn't need that many soldiers to deal with the virtually unarmed residents of Gaza, whose primary weapon is a rock.

Confused about Mideast affairs? Here are some clues:
a) Suicidal, fanatical Muslim terrorists hate and want to kill everybody, especially Jews.
b) The Muslim terrorists routinely attack Israel, America, Europe, Asia, and even their own nations.
c) The Muslim terrorists are incredibly successful in attacking America, (eg, the 9/11 attack), Europe, Asia, and Arab nations.
d) The Muslim terrorists are such failures in regards to killing their primary enemy that even this Jewish reporter admits that journalists have been ignoring the Palestinian rockets rather than reporting about them. He points out that the rockets haven't killed any Jews, and they haven't seriously injured any Jews, either. Recently a Muslim terrorist put a bomb on an Israeli bus, but nobody was killed in that attack, either.
Are you smart enough to figure out why the Muslim terrorists were successful with the September 11 attack but failures in their attempts to kill Jews? Apparently, at least some of the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip have figured out what is going on. After executing those traitors, peace breaks out in Gaza! What a coincidence! Who would have thought that executing destructive people would bring peace? I suppose most Americans would have recommended the Israeli spies be rehabilitated with punishments or Bible lessons.
Questions to discuss and contemplate:
What would happen to the world if people in other countries became inspired by those Palestinians? For example, what would happen to China if some Chinese began executing their corrupt government officials? What would happen to Sweden if some Swedes began executing the criminal policemen who are protecting kidnappers, such as those holding the Bollyn family? What would happen to America if some Americans began executing corrupt FBI agents and dishonest journalists? What would happen to Germany if some Germans began executing the criminals who promote the HoloHoax? What would happen to the BBC if some people began executing the pedophile officials? 

What would happen if female criminals were executed also, including those who are pregnant? What would happen if the military practiced their policy of executing deserters; specifically, the sheeple who refuse to help us stop the criminals?

How would you answer those questions?
a) If we execute criminals, we would be stooping to their level, which would be wrong. We must be better than them. We must treat them with decency and respect.
b) It is immoral and senseless to use violence in order to stop violence, and it doesn't work anyway. We must forgive, forget, and love the criminals. However, we must never forget the Holocaust or forgive the Germans (have you listened to Jordan Dern yet?).
c) Life is too precious to kill anybody, even the most disgusting criminals. It is especially wrong to kill women, children, and sheeple. Also, all fetuses must be protected and cared for, even those of the most psychotic criminals and rapists.
d) We would finally begin the process of creating a truly pleasant world.

HOW BASHEER LOST THE "RESPECT" OF ANNE BECK!

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2012/11/25/alex-jones-iran-wants-to-wipe-irael-off-the-map/#comment-138420

Alex Jones ‘Iran wants to wipe I$rael off the map’



  1. #1 by annebeck58 on November 25, 2012 - 5:33 pm
    I live in Austin. I love just about everything about living here.
    Having Alex Two-faced Jones also living here here is an embarrassment to Austin.
    Then again, he spends half of his time in Crazy-Town, and not so much Austin.
    This; his apologies for Israel, and his continued lie about the most decent president in the Middle-East, is what has me constantly telling others, “Alex Jones is not worthy of your time.”
    The guy is a fool. And he’s dangerous only because people who otherwise believe in liberty listen to his crap on Israel and his nasty attitude toward Arabs. It’s too bad.
    I see why others call Alex, “controlled opposition”. The guy must be on the payroll.
  2. #4 by Adalberto Erazo Jr. on November 25, 2012 - 8:16 pm
    You know there is an old saying that says, ” You are known by the company you keep” and it definitely is the case with Alex Jones. That creature is surrounded by jews. That man is connected with Stratfor which is a front for the Mossad and in turn the radio network he works for is owned by a wealthy jew in Canada named Edgar Bronfman whose family made their fortune in bootlegging. He is also heavily involved with the jews like Jason Bermas and Dylan Avery who attack anyone trying to mention that jews,Mossad, and IsraHell did 9/11.
    Alex Jones and these other assorted gatekeepers are definitely dangerous because of the disinformation they constantly spew out.
    He is definitely in bed with IsraHell…………………………………………………………………………………..his wife.
  3. #5 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 25, 2012 - 8:18 pm
    #1 by annebeck58 on November 25, 2012 – 5:33 pm
    “This; his apologies for Israel, and his continued lie about the most decent president in the Middle-East, is what has me constantly telling others, “Alex Jones is not worthy of your time.””
    Alex says he is a Christian, but like the “Old Testament”, he is part good (Godly) and part evil (Satanic)!
    I saw him once surrounded by Jews, and his associate Jason Bermas is definitely a blooming Jew-loving Israeli-loving fool, but Alex has also done a great job on many issues, and this I will never forget and will always be grateful.
    I have known Alex for quite a long time now, but have not watched him for the last couple of years or so because something was wrong in my view.
    Basheer
  4. #6 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 25, 2012 - 9:11 pm
    #4 by Adalberto Erazo Jr. on November 25, 2012 – 8:16 pm
    “He is definitely in bed with IsraHell…………………………………………………………………………………..his wife.”
    you said it, boy, Alex is already in bed with his JEWISH wife and has therefore Jewish children unless he can prove otherwise!
    Alex lied also about many other things and hid many truths as well. Was he not the guy who said Arabs were running Hollywood and were buying all US stocks and other real estates?
    But, what he really meant was JEWS!
    Basheer
  5. #7 by annebeck58 on November 25, 2012 - 9:18 pm
    Basheer:
    “…lex has also done a great job on many issues, and this I will never forget and will always be grateful.”
    And I agree.
    Though Alex does report on some issues we should care about, he does in my opinion, take it to Crazy-town about 2/3 of the time.
    I have watched a few of Alex’s recentt videos, with a friend who still enjoys Alex. And as we watched, I counted down.., and said, “and, here we go, it’s crazy-town again!” After a few videos (we watched “together” on the phone.. hahah), he had to agree.
    I don’t know how much truth can be gleaned from Alex Jones, because of his kookiness. It’s almost like he does this, intentionally; ya think?

  6. #8 by bigcree1 on November 25, 2012 - 10:27 pm
    Basheer, if you sense a certain percentage of ‘truth’ from this alleged ‘Truth Fighter’ and a certain amount of false information, then you can bet, he’s not worthy of your time nor your praise.
    The Bolshevik Jew Vladimir Ulyanovitch Lenin was quoted saying ‘The best way to control any situation is to gain control of both sides’.

  7. #9 by Matthew/Boston on November 26, 2012 - 12:33 am
    Look at Jones’ eyes when he says “Blow up Israel — wipe them off the face.” It’s like he is being forced to say it against his will and telling you with his eyes. Like a prisoner of war being forced to say his captures are treating him well. (I am NOT defending him.)
    Who owns the broadcast network he transmits on?

  8. #11 by Matthew/Boston on November 26, 2012 - 1:12 am
    @Basheer.
    A.J. is good for information on some matters, such as FEMA and DHS anf the TSA, and exposing technology and tactics the U.S. government is using to slowly destroy our freedom and liberty. But he obviously soft pedals on the subject of Israel and certainly can be considered a “gatekeeper”.
    Years ago I listened to him loyally on shortwave radio on weeknights, but somehow lost interest at the same time as losing respect for him due to his unwillingness to expose, to any degree, the terrorist nation of Israel. If he was the patriot he claims to be, he’d out the bastards on 9-11, whatever the cost.
  9. #12 by annebeck58 on November 26, 2012 - 2:28 am
    Basheer:
    Re: Alex Jones and Arabs running Hollywood. It could easily have been Jones who made up that oft used and inane word, “Pallywood”.
    Like Palestinians own anything near America, especially Hollywood? It’s craziness…
    Which takes me back to what I say of Alex; always goes to or spends about 2/3 of his time in– CRAZY-Town.
    The guy is half cuckoo- half stupid (and the other half?-== haha).
    I do not care if his wife and kids are Jewish, though, as long as they are not Zionist Jews.
    It does not have me like Alex less or more and I only watch short clips of him because I cannot stand his craziness (which may be a show he puts on..?)
  10. #13 by annebeck58 on November 26, 2012 - 2:31 am
    @Matthew/Boston:
    Alex is not good for certain things, even FEMA, DHA, etc..
    Because he always takes to the realm of the unbelievable.
    Better to pay attention to real truth-tellers.
  11. #14 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 26, 2012 - 2:55 am
    #7 by annebeck58 on November 25, 2012 – 9:18 pm
    Basheer:
    “I don’t know how much truth can be gleaned from Alex Jones, because of his kookiness.”
    When one beds a Jewess, is surrounded by Jews, say we cannot upset Israel, and has Jason Bermas as acolyte, he has lost all credibility and should never be invited as a witness in any Court of Mercantile Maritime Law!
    BAFS

  12. #15 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 26, 2012 - 2:58 am
    #8 by bigcree1 on November 25, 2012 – 10:27 pm
    “Basheer, if you sense a certain percentage of ‘truth’ from this alleged ‘Truth Fighter’ and a certain amount of false information, then you can bet, he’s not worthy of your time nor your praise.”
    And you don’t? Why?
    Maybe you have never heard of that thing called Justice or equity!
    Then, get yourself a PROPER name!

    BAFS

  13. #16 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 26, 2012 - 3:01 am
    #9 by Matthew/Boston on November 26, 2012 – 12:33 am
    “Look at Jones’ eyes when he says “Blow up Israel — wipe them off the face.” It’s like he is being forced to say it against his will and telling you with his eyes.”
    You saw and heard right! Congratulations! Did you also notice the fading out of the image?
    Basheer
  14. #17 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 26, 2012 - 3:15 am
    #10 by roger mason on November 26, 2012 – 12:42 am
    “Alex Jones has a jewish wife, two jewish children, jewish attorneys,
    and jewish advertisers.”
    After my family and ancestors had had Jewish slave owners, I had
    Jewish teachers,
    Jewish friends,
    Jewish doctors,
    Jewish dentists,
    Jewish ophthalmologists,
    Jewish opticians,
    Jewish attorneys,
    Jewish barristers,
    Jewish accountants,
    Jewish staff,
    Jewish clients,
    Jewish landlords,
    Jewish legal advisers,
    Jewish Prime Ministers,
    Jewish President,
    Jewish Minister of Finance,
    Jewish Members of Parliament,
    Jewish Archbishop (Paris),
    stayed in a Jewish family,
    bought my goods from Jews, even toilet paper!
    bought my meat at the Jewish butcher shop,
    Jewish almost everything no matter where I lived: Mauritius, Russia, Caucasus, France, England.
    But, I will never accept Jewish Israel like Alex and others do!
    BAFS
  15. #18 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 26, 2012 - 3:17 am
    #13 by annebeck58 on November 26, 2012 – 2:31 am
    “Better pay attention to real truth-tellers.!
    Like me, ha ha!
    Basheer
  16. #19 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 26, 2012 - 3:22 am
    #11 by Matthew/Boston on November 26, 2012 – 1:12 am
    @Basheer.
    “Years ago I listened to him (Alex Jones) loyally on shortwave radio on weeknights, but somehow lost interest …”
    We had big disagreements! But, let us give the devil his due while keeping our eyes wide open!
    Basheer
  17. #20 by annebeck58 on November 26, 2012 - 4:50 am
    Same here. Basheer.
    The pharmacist at the corner was Jewish, as was the man who owned the liquor-store across the street. Next to him was the bakery, which also sold cooked- fish with the head still on and eyes intact. I’d never seen that anywhere else. On the other side of the liquor store was the small grocery store, also owned by a Jewish family.
    And our doctors were Jewish.
    Our dentist was a Jew.
    As was our opthamologist.
    On the other hand, I attended Catholic grammar and high-schools.., until I told my parents I would not go back, and finished high-school in a non-religious school, where many of my teachers and principals, counsellors, etc.., were Jewish.
    When I was a small child, I thought if you were not Catholic, you were Jewish. I was in at least fifth grade before I met anyone (a friend of my brothers, from the South) who was something other than this. He was Baptist and that really confused me.
    I live in Texas, now, where few people are either Catholic or Jewish. Yet the neighborhood I settled into is full of synagogues and the Jewish Community Center is two blocks away. The HEB (yes, this is the name of the grocery store closest by) has a Kosher-deli, which people rave about.
    It’s funny that I hadn’t thought about this in a long time. I grew up in a neighborhood called, “Cracker Hill”, due to the huge number of Irish immigrants. But the shoppe owners were Jews. I don’t know how that happened.
    At least the firemen were Irish…
  18. #24 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 26, 2012 - 6:09 pm
    #20 by annebeck58 on November 26, 2012 – 4:50 am
    “Same here. Basheer.”
    Sometimes I used to say to my German Shepherd dog rexy: ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE NOT JEWISH TOO, REXY? But, I could tell by his eyes that he wasn’t!
    Basheer


  19. #30 by bigcree1 on November 29, 2012 - 6:51 am
    Basheer, that IS my name!!! And I don’t accept half truths.

  20. #31 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 29, 2012 - 3:16 pm
    #30 by bigcree1 on November 29, 2012 – 6:51 am
    Basheer, that IS my name!!! And I don’t accept half truths.
    Love, do you mean “bigcree1″ is your PROPER name? Are you joking?
    I too do not accept half truths.
    Basheer

  21. #32 by annebeck58 on November 29, 2012 - 6:31 pm
    I would say it is an aptly descriptive name.
    Our friend, BigCree, is quite a tall man and is Cree.
    Perhaps you’d prefer, “Tall Cree”?
    And I do not think it’s necessary for people to use their given names online. I have used all or part of my actual name, mostly. But, given what I have endured at the hands of the Zionist invaders, it would have probably been better had I chosen a descriptive name, initially.

  22. #33 by Ingrid B on November 29, 2012 - 6:39 pm
    Basheer, what is your problem? if he says his name is bigcree, who are you to argue, and even if it isn`t his name, what`s the big deal?

  23. #34 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 29, 2012 - 9:27 pm
    #32 by annebeck58 on November 29, 2012 – 6:31 pm
    “And I do not think it’s necessary for people to use their given names online.”
    #33 by Ingrid B on November 29, 2012 – 6:39 pm
    “Basheer, what is your problem?”

    I am sorry, I deal with SCHOLARSHIP and I am interested only in contributors with proper and identifiable names even if this is a PEN NAME. This is my right and my choice, and I do not see why I should follow the crowd.

    If YOU find “bigcree1″ to be a PROPER name, you are free.

    Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116 too is a PROPER name, a Swedish one, but made illegal!

    Maybe you are not conscious that you are trying to impose YOUR TASTE on others! I am not imposing or trying to impose mine on anybody!

    Having said that, I would remind you that the issue was about Mr Big Cree telling me that Alex Jones was not worthy of my time nor of my praise. I would add that this is my problem and my choice and I do not give a damn about anybody who thinks otherwise and tries to dictate to me how and what to write.
    BAFS

  24. #35 by annebeck58 on November 29, 2012 - 11:22 pm
    Oh, Basheer.
    I know you misunderstood “BigCree”. He and I are (IRL) friends, and I saw what he wrote, as well as your response to him. Cree (I am not going to use his real name unless he wants to use it, himself) was agreeing with you. He and I discussed this particular exchange, via phone. I believe you misread his comment. In fact, I’m sure you misunderstood what he was saying, as we have talked about this (among many other things.)

    Cree is one of the good guys, for sure, and I think many people who contribute to TUT would say the same. Perhaps you would go back and re-read what he initially said to you. You guys were essentially saying the same thing!

    –ed note from me, MG–Indeed BigCree is one of us, a fact to which I can attest, having spoken to him personally over the phone.

  25. #36 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 30, 2012 - 4:20 am
    #35 by annebeck58 on November 29, 2012 – 11:22 pm
    Oh, Basheer.
    I know you misunderstood “BigCree”.

    How can I MISUNDERSTAND “bigcree1″ when I never knew him/her, never read about him/her, and he/she all of a sudden started ADVISING me about how to deal with Alex Jones?

    If you knew him so well, why then chose to tutor me instead of telling me right away that I was indeed dealing with a HE and one of us? I have known Alex Jones for quite a long time and I do pay attention to what he is doing, especially if he is an enemy!

    I am not going to sacrifice my principles to please any Tom, Dick and Hariette who happens not to like my views!

    –ed note from me, MG–Indeed BigCree is one of us,…”

    This is enough for me! THANKS, MARK!

    But, I would now like that gentleman to stand up for himself and sort out our disagreement MAN TO MAN. Before I responded, I tried to check who the hell “bigcree1″ was, but in vain! The closest I could come up with was Big’Cree (Denise) Hutch. And, I do not have time to waste with such nonsense!

    I deal with trolls, Sayanim and hackers almost on a daily basis and I do not look on ‘newcomers’ with a kind eye or kind heart! If I did not have a computer expert to help me, I would not even have been able to access or write on “The Ugly Truth” at all, but I do not come and weep on anybody’s
    shoulders regarding these almost daily attacks and threats. What I write is EXPLOSIVE even to my own ‘friends’!

    Martin Mueller from “Justice for Germans” (this one is a real PROPER name and he has a face too!) knows what I am talking about!

    Regards, and thanks again, Mark!

    Basheer
    P.S. There was one “Jeff” who said he had asked me a question, but that I had “REFUSED” to answer. I am still waiting for him to tell me what the hell he was talking about!

  26. #37 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 30, 2012 - 4:50 am
    #31 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 29, 2012 – 3:16 pm
    #30 by bigcree1 on November 29, 2012 – 6:51 am

    LOVE, do you mean “bigcree1″ is your REAL PROPER name? Is it the correct way it is spelt? I see it now also written Big Cree! 

    It looks like I had already offered you a Peace Pipe!

    Basheer

  27. #38 by annebeck58 on November 30, 2012 - 5:59 am
    Basheer!
    As I said, he’s one of the good guys.
    I’ve known “Cree” for at least four years, and you and he say so much of the same things, I cannot understand how you (two) got off on the wrong foot.
    But, and i hope this was not intended in the manner I took it,

    “It looks like I had already offered you a Peace Pipe!”

    Sounded very offensive… He is my friend and I will always stand up for him. But, in particular, when it seems as if your comments to him could have come from him (some, anyway), I really don’t see the problem.

    As I said, I do believe you misunderstood his intent. He’s a good man and should be recognised as such. I respect you and I respect my friend, too.

  28. #39 by annebeck58 on November 30, 2012 - 6:02 am
    Oh, and Mark:
    –ed note from me, MG–Indeed BigCree is one of us, a fact to which I can attest, having spoken to him personally over the phone.
    thank you.

  29. #40 by bigcree1 on November 30, 2012 - 7:23 am
    Basheer save your arrogance and pomposity for the enemy. My name is Shadowhawk
    Mi kiuk Shiu’ I’yeh P’ita.
    (Shadow of the Red Tailed Hawk Cree/ Blackfeet Nations.
    Good enough? Don’t disrespect me again!

  30. #41 by annebeck58 on November 30, 2012 - 7:13 pm
    I still do not believe it was necessary for you to provide your given name, but that’s up to you.
    I happen to know what the animals do when they know our names; they seek us out and they threaten, using photos of us and our home(s).. And you know they’ve done worse to me.
    As I said, sometimes I wish I’d thought up a descriptive name, rather than used my given name..

  31. #42 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on November 30, 2012 - 9:36 pm
    #40 by bigcree1 on November 30, 2012 – 7:23 am
    “Basheer save your arrogance and pomposity for the enemy.”

    “One of ours” or not, as far as I am concerned, you can GO TO HELL, “bigcree1″ or whoever you are! And, I mean it! I have wasted my precious time enough on you!

    Adios
    BAFS

  32. #43 by annebeck58 on November 30, 2012 - 10:52 pm
    #42, Basheer (oh, Basheer)…

    Given your latest reactionary comments, aimed at my good friend, and some addressed to me (in other posts), I have to take back what I said. I find it impossible to respect you.

  33. #44 by bigcree1 on November 30, 2012 - 10:56 pm
    Basheer, you first. Prick!

  34. #45 by bigcree1 on November 30, 2012 - 11:00 pm
    I will no longer reply to the arrogant self serving Individual known as ‘Basheer’ who is lacking in all social graces and humility. It’s counter productive in replying to such an individual who is so in love with their own voice that they cannot hear others in their midst. Enough said.

  35. #46 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on December 1, 2012 - 12:20 am
    #43 by annebeck58 on November 30, 2012 – 10:52 pm
    #42, Basheer (oh, Basheer)…

    "Given your latest reactionary comments, …."

    Reactionary? Did you see me REACT at the killings in Ghazza? Why should I REACT to comments made by anybody here?

    “aimed at my good friend,”

    When did you introduce your friend to me? I am still wondering what Code of Conduct are you respecting when writing?

    “some addressed to me (in other posts)”

    Did you object there and then? Did we discuss about it or had you chosen it should be only one sided?

    “I find it impossible to respect you.”

    A typical mistake many make because it is not about ME!

    Are you making any allusion at the outrageous statement you made about women in Islamic Law?

    You make a double mistake by thinking that I write on “The Ugly Truth” leaving all the other forums to seek acceptance of my person.

    I have great respect for each and everyone writing on “The Ugly Truth” as long as they respect a certain Code of Conduct, the one I uphold in intellectual debate. As for the use of pseudonyms, some more outrageous than the other, unless I am informed that its use is necessitated by a certain personal circumstance, I do not indulge in any kind of debate because I cannot use the ‘information’ provided in any scholarly manner. I do not regard gossip and anonymous postures as serious material for my work.

    As for those who use pseudonyms just for ego or other stupid reasons reasons, they better watch out and make sure they do not indulge in attacks or try to tutor others.

    I know EXACTLY at what point and why I became disappointed with what I was seeing here as a regular occurrence, which was not doing much good to the Movement. I do not need to write on “The Ugly Truth” as I have other means of promoting the Crescent and Cross and the works of Mark Glenn as I never found any foul play on his behalf like I find regularly with many others.

    I have been on the terrain since I was in my teens and most Americans are far from being aware of the whole truth about many things that have their origins in Europe and that are today destroying America and I am part of the bridge between the two, and my struggle will continue here and anywhere I am welcome.

    If you have no more any respect for ME, I cannot say the same for you because I obey to higher ideals, and I would never intellectually or philosophically sacrifice the truth for friend or foe.

    I have been called many names: Nazi, antisemite, racist, terrorist, fanatic, fundamentalist, etc., but REACTIONARY, I need to ask for advice from my teacher in politics, Alain Soral, because we are people who have trained ourselves for decades never to REACT, but to always ACT upon what we know for sure and using the best strategy possible to achieve positive results in the short or longer term!

    I noticed that you cannot stand criticism! It’s a weakness, dear. Having said that, you seem to make a mockery of the importance of the task we have before us to take things so personally. I am at war and I use a different code whether you like it or not.

    ALLAH DISLIKES FOR US EMPTY AND VAIN TALK!

    Regards
    Basheer

  36. #47 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on December 1, 2012 - 2:17 am

    #44 by bigcree1 on November 30, 2012 – 10:56 pm
    “Basheer, you first. Prick!”

    The language suits your character! And you well deserve the “annebeck” character too! Two or three persons less on my list of “friends” will certainly give me more time to get on with my work as I debate only with my peers.

    BAFS

 



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