With Michael Désiré - 5 July 2012
WESTERN MENDACITY ON CIRCUMCISION
The Neo Heathens,
a breed of Christian apostates, renegades, disillusioned Christians and
Catholics, fanatics, ill-informed Believers, and others despite having rejected
Christianity, Jesus, religion and God are sadly peddling certain prejudices of
the Christian and Catholic Church establishment, dragging the Muslim practice
of circumcision in the gutter along with that despicable practice of Jewish
circumcision (as shown on the Internet) as if they were both one and the same. They vilify all practices deemed Islamic,
like animal slaughter, polygyny, capital punishment, divorce, hijaab, Shari’a,
religious education, pilgrimage, etc., and make it more and more difficult for
Muslims to practice their religion as minorities and even in Muslim countries
like Turkey, Bosnia, Azerbaijan, Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Arabia, etc.
Circumcision
is a very old African practice in observance by the highly civilised Egyptians
of the Old Mystery Schools that educated the Ancient Greeks in many sciences to
which they were prohibited from having access for nearly five thousand years
until they were finally allowed into Egypt by the Persians and later through
the invasion of Egypt by Alexander the Accursed. Alexander’s mass murdering General Aristotle who
died in 322 BCE is said to have learned “science” (a modern term for empirical
knowledge) with a philosopher named Plato who himself is not known to have ever
been a scientist, but only a student of the Egyptian Mystery School.
Young Alexander
the Accursed (who started Hellenistic Multiculturalism) had the Royal Egyptian temples
and libraries plundered and pillaged by his Army and his Generals who took over
the greatest Library in the known world where a research Centre was set up and
Egyptian, Chaldean and Babylonian knowledge (scientia) was translated into
Greek. There, Aristotle (and his
successors) catalogued many works that history tells us he had purchased upon
Alexander’s instructions or orders and put his name to the listing not as
author of the works as the works were obviously not his. It would be foolish to ascribe such an
enormous corpus of works to an Army General who wasted 20 years of his life learning
Egyptian philosophy (passed as Greek philosophy) under Plato and many years on
the battle field. Single-handedly and within
his life time, this exploit falsely attributed to him is a physical
impossibility.
The
Europeans will play the same trick on the Islamic science that they inherited
either through conquest or through their studies under the Muslims at a time
when all philosophical, mathematical, astronomical, and scientific works were
in Arabic.
“…Greek
philosophers were undesirable citizens, who throughout the period of their
investigations were victims of relentless persecution, at the hands of the
Athenian government. Anaxagoras was imprisoned and exiled; Socrates was
executed (399 BCE); Plato was sold into slavery and Aristotle was indicted and
exiled; while the earliest of them all, Pythagoras, was expelled from Croton in
Italy.”
On page 36, Dr James writes:
(2) It is
said that Pythagoras, a native of Samos, travelled frequently to Egypt for the
purpose of his education. Like every aspirant, he had to secure the consent and
favour of the Priests, and we are informed by Diogenes that a friendship
existed between Polycrates of Samos and Amasis King of Egypt, that Polycrates
gave Pythagoras letters of introduction to the King, who secured for him an
introduction to the Priests; first to the Priest of Heliopolis, then to the
Priest of Memphis, and lastly to the Priests of Thebes, to each of whom
Pythagoras gave a silver goblet.
(Herodotus Bk. III 124; Diogenes VIII 3;
Pliny N. H., 36, 9; Antipho recorded by Porphyry).
We are
also further informed through Herodotus, Jablonsk and Pliny, that after severe
trials, including
circumcision, had been imposed upon him by the Egyptian Priests, he
was finally initiated into all their secrets. That he learnt the doctrine of
metempsychosis; of which there was no trace before in the Greek religion; that
his knowledge of medicine and strict system of dietetic rules, distinguished
him as a product of Egypt, where medicine had attained its highest perfection;
and that his attainments in geometry corresponded with the ascertained fact
that Egypt was the birth place of that Science.
In this
respect we further learn from Origen, that circumcision was compulsory, and one
of the necessary conditions of initiation to a knowledge of the hieroglyphics
and sciences of the Egyptians, and it is obvious that Democritus, in order to
obtain such knowledge, must have submitted also to that rite. Origen, who was a
native of Egypt
wrote as follows:
“Apud Aegyptios nullus aut
geometrica studebat, aut astronomiae secreta remabatur, nisi circumcisione
suscepta.”
(No one among the
Egyptians, either studied geometry, or investigated the secrets of Astronomy,
unless circumcision had been undertaken).
(4)
Concerning Plato's travels we are told by Hermodorus that at the age of 28
Plato visited Euclid at Megara
in company with other pupils of Socrates; and that for the next ten years he
visited Cyrene, Italy
and finally Egypt,
where he received instruction from the Egyptian Priests.
(5) With
regards to Socrates and Aristotle and the majority of pre-Socratic
philosophers, history seems to be silent on the question of their travelling to
Egypt
like the few other students here mentioned, for the purpose of their education.
It is enough to say, that in this case the exceptions have proved the rule,
that all students, who had the means, went to Egypt to complete their education.
On page 52, Dr James writes:
“We are
told not only by the bible, but also by the historian Philo, that Moses was an
Initiate of the Egyptian Mysteries and became a Hierogrammat; learned in all
the wisdom of the Egyptian people. This was only possible by proper initiation
and gradual advancement, when evidence of fitness was demonstrated by the
Neophyte. The Egyptian name of Moses was given to all candidates at their
baptism, and meant "saved by water".”
It seems inevitable that if you are a brainwashed Christian,
however highly educated, or an apostate, a renegade, a frustrated Believer, an
Atheist or an Agnostic, you must automatically in most cases hate Arabs,
Muslims and Islam. If they were not, why
don’t they join hands en masse to prevent the extermination of entire Muslim
populations around the globe and stop demonising them instead?
It is proven fact today that the decadent West and its Allies
are carrying out an Eternal Crusade against Arabs, Muslims and Islam to TOTAL EXTERMINATION
AND SUBJUGATION and all efforts are geared at the total destruction
of the very birthplaces of civilisation: Egypt, Iraq (Mesopotamia, Babylonia, Chaldea, etc.), Iran (Persia), Pakistan (Mohenjo
Daro, or “Mound of the Dead”, an ancient Indus Valley Civilization city that
flourished between 2600 and 1900 BCE. It was one of the first world and ancient
Hindustani cities. The site was discovered in the 1920s and lies in Pakistan's
Sindh province.)
And destroy all evidence of those civilisations that were
infinitely superior to the so-called Greco-Roman civilisation. We must not forget that the Arabs or
“Semites” (Phoenician- Canaanite, Ancient Arabic, Syriac, etc.) gave both the
Greeks and the Israelites their respective written Alphabets! The more tolerant Hellenistic culture started
by Alexander was however soon to be forgotten as a racist Roman culture took
over the world. Arabs had a dictionary
of Arabic long before the Israelites had their Hebrew one and the highest form
of any Semitic language is undoubtedly Classical Arabic, which has been
preserved to this very day unlike Classical Greek, Sanskrit, Latin or Hebrew
that are regarded as dead languages.
BAFS
PATTY commented on God's Chosen C*cksuckers--Infant Genital Mutilation/Molestation .
in response to crescentandcross:
ed note–someone please explain to me again how there is nothing abnormal about these people, their beliefs and their practices.
To
BAFS re: posts 13, 14, 16,19– I think you are a crazy Muslim fanatic
who cannot tolerate people with views different from your own. The only
reasons Christians and Muslims circumcise infants is because they are
nothing but branches of Judaism and accept Jewish teaching. Before the
advent of Christianity, Europeans did not curcumcise little boys. I
don’t know or care what the Arabs did before Islam was created. It’s a
practice that needs to stop among non-Jews.
#22 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on December 14, 2012 - 3:48 pm
#21 by PATTY on December 14, 2012 – 6:04 am
“To BAFS re: posts 13, 14, 16,19– I think you are a crazy Muslim fanatic …”
What about if I return you the compliment and say that you are a drug (nicotine) addict by your own confession (if it was you who I heard once admitting to this!) who is pretending to teach others what she cannot herself practice?
By the way, who are you to tell Muslims how to practice their religion?
I am indeed speaking about Islam and Muslims and do not give a damn about your obsession regarding circumcision!
Are you circumcised? I AM, you bloody fool!
“CRAZY MUSLIM FANATIC”! Where did you get this one? Nuts like you are indeed proving my point, exactly!
Basheer
Circumcised and Happy!
“To BAFS re: posts 13, 14, 16,19– I think you are a crazy Muslim fanatic …”
What about if I return you the compliment and say that you are a drug (nicotine) addict by your own confession (if it was you who I heard once admitting to this!) who is pretending to teach others what she cannot herself practice?
By the way, who are you to tell Muslims how to practice their religion?
I am indeed speaking about Islam and Muslims and do not give a damn about your obsession regarding circumcision!
Are you circumcised? I AM, you bloody fool!
“CRAZY MUSLIM FANATIC”! Where did you get this one? Nuts like you are indeed proving my point, exactly!
Basheer
Circumcised and Happy!
#23 by B.A.Frémaux-Soormally on December 14, 2012 - 4:03 pm
#21 by PATTY on December 14, 2012 – 6:04 am
“To BAFS re: posts 13, 14, 16,19– I think you are a crazy Muslim fanatic who cannot tolerate people with views different from your own.”
Did you think I was a fool to warn that my commentary was destined “FOR THE WIDER READERSHIP”? Some here think they are the only ones who read “The Ugly Truth”!
BAFS
Jason Liosatos Outside The Box
“To BAFS re: posts 13, 14, 16,19– I think you are a crazy Muslim fanatic who cannot tolerate people with views different from your own.”
Did you think I was a fool to warn that my commentary was destined “FOR THE WIDER READERSHIP”? Some here think they are the only ones who read “The Ugly Truth”!
BAFS
Jason Liosatos Outside The Box
Published on 6 Jun 2014
My talk with Gilad Atzmon about the
barbaric abuse on Jewish children by the religious ritual of
circumcision. We discuss this horrendous act of mutilation on eight day
old babies without anesthetic, and the further horrific abuse by the act
of Metzitzah B'peh where a Rabbi Priest sucks the blood off the
mutilated, screaming child's penis. We talk about the urgency that we
are not hold back in exposing this act of child abuse and insanity, and
the great danger of us becoming used to this psychotic behavior. I also
mention that people are afraid of being called anti Semitic and hence
this atrocity, and collective psychosis continues. We also talk about
the importance of us studying the history of this, to let go of our
indoctrination and mistakes, and the emergency that the Jewish
population really analyze the implications of this forced circumcision
blood ritual, and make the right ethical decision against it, and
hopefully initiate an outright ban on its practice.
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The JEWISH barbaric custom of circumcision! Yea!
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MBP should cease immediately, simply because we humans discovered the germ theory of disease.
There is no Biblical or Talmudic reason why bris should be painful. All mohelim should be doctors and should first inject lidocaine.
Circumcision is a cattle brand denoting entry into the Covenant. The Covenant is a contract between God and the Jewish people. An 8 day old infant does not have the capacity to enter into a contract. Bris should be an adult choice, undertaken after the 18th (preferably 21st) birthday. Reform and Conservative rabbis should also rule that intact males are welcome in their temples. All talk that intact men cannot enjoy the Jewish afterlife should cease.
Outside of Israel and North America, many/most secular and liberal Jewish families no longer circumcise. Secular Israeli opposition to bris is on the rise. The circumcised penis should be the mark of the devout committed Jew, not of every male who happens to have Jewish ancestry.
Jewish feminism is rich and powerful, and bris is incompatible with equality for Jewish women.
Circumcision is not a Jewish problem, but a human one. The vast majority of circumcised men are not Jewish at all. Circumcision is a self-perpetuating fetish, emotionally grounded in the fact that it is a major alteration to the most sexual part of the male body. During the first half of last century, Americans became a circumcised people. Nobody really knows why. But once the circumcision rate among the white middle class hit 90%+, it became psychologically difficult for Americans to let go of the practice, because the natural penis came to be seen as dirty and sexually disgusting.
There is no Biblical or Talmudic reason why bris should be painful. All mohelim should be doctors and should first inject lidocaine.
Circumcision is a cattle brand denoting entry into the Covenant. The Covenant is a contract between God and the Jewish people. An 8 day old infant does not have the capacity to enter into a contract. Bris should be an adult choice, undertaken after the 18th (preferably 21st) birthday. Reform and Conservative rabbis should also rule that intact males are welcome in their temples. All talk that intact men cannot enjoy the Jewish afterlife should cease.
Outside of Israel and North America, many/most secular and liberal Jewish families no longer circumcise. Secular Israeli opposition to bris is on the rise. The circumcised penis should be the mark of the devout committed Jew, not of every male who happens to have Jewish ancestry.
Jewish feminism is rich and powerful, and bris is incompatible with equality for Jewish women.
Circumcision is not a Jewish problem, but a human one. The vast majority of circumcised men are not Jewish at all. Circumcision is a self-perpetuating fetish, emotionally grounded in the fact that it is a major alteration to the most sexual part of the male body. During the first half of last century, Americans became a circumcised people. Nobody really knows why. But once the circumcision rate among the white middle class hit 90%+, it became psychologically difficult for Americans to let go of the practice, because the natural penis came to be seen as dirty and sexually disgusting.
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My
talk with Gilad Atzmon about the barbaric abuse on Jewish children by
the religious ritual of circumcision. We discuss this horrendous act of
mutilation on eight day old babies without anesthetic, and the further
horrific abuse by the act of Metzitzah B'peh where a Rabbi Priest sucks
the blood off the mutilated, screaming child's penis. We talk about the
urgency that we are not hold back in exposing this act of child abuse
and insanity, and the great danger of us becoming used to this psychotic
behavior. I also mention that people are afraid of being called anti
Semitic and hence this atrocity, and collective psychosis continues. We
also talk about the importance of us studying the history of this, to
let go of our indoctrination and mistakes, and the emergency that the
Jewish population really analyze the implications of this forced
circumcision blood ritual, and make the right ethical decision against
it, and hopefully initiate an outright ban on its practice.
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A very interesting show, thanks! I'm familiar with Gilad (and adore him!) though not come across you before, Jason :)
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WESTERN MENDACITY ON CIRCUMCISION
http://muhammad-ali-ben-marcus.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/western-mendacity-on-circumcision.html
"The Neo Heathens, a breed of Christian apostates, renegades, disillusioned Christians and Catholics, fanatics, ill-informed Believers, and others despite having rejected Christianity, Jesus, religion and God are sadly peddling certain prejudices of the Christian and Catholic Church establishment, dragging the Muslim practice of circumcision in the gutter along with that despicable practice of Jewish circumcision (as shown on the Internet) as if they were both one and the same. They vilify all practices deemed Islamic, like animal slaughter, polygyny, capital punishment, divorce, hijaab, Shari’a, religious education, pilgrimage, etc., and make it more and more difficult for Muslims to practice their religion as minorities and even in Muslim countries like Turkey, Bosnia, Azerbaijan, Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Arabia, etc."
BAFS
http://muhammad-ali-ben-marcus.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/western-mendacity-on-circumcision.html
"The Neo Heathens, a breed of Christian apostates, renegades, disillusioned Christians and Catholics, fanatics, ill-informed Believers, and others despite having rejected Christianity, Jesus, religion and God are sadly peddling certain prejudices of the Christian and Catholic Church establishment, dragging the Muslim practice of circumcision in the gutter along with that despicable practice of Jewish circumcision (as shown on the Internet) as if they were both one and the same. They vilify all practices deemed Islamic, like animal slaughter, polygyny, capital punishment, divorce, hijaab, Shari’a, religious education, pilgrimage, etc., and make it more and more difficult for Muslims to practice their religion as minorities and even in Muslim countries like Turkey, Bosnia, Azerbaijan, Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Arabia, etc."
BAFS
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Had
warmongering, imperialist and Colonialist decadent Christendom not
given Palestine to the Khazari "Jews", and allowed them to run or
control ALL their Godless Western governments, MAYBE this question about
the Jewish BARBARIC practice of circumcision would never have arisen in
the first place.
Jews have great surgeons and we have excellent surgeons and I do not see why this minor surgical operation cannot be accomplished without pain TODAY!
BAFS
Jews have great surgeons and we have excellent surgeons and I do not see why this minor surgical operation cannot be accomplished without pain TODAY!
BAFS
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"Le Saint Prépuce"
En corrélation avec « La VDM de Gé Zu », Adhémar n’a pas manqué d’apporter pieusement sa pierre à l’édifice (de pute). Des travaux minutieux de bénédictin enfiévré l’ont fait se pencher sur une étude approfondie du mystère du Saint Prépuce, un gland reportage ma foi! Comme on a raconté tout et n’importe quoi sur ce petit bout de barbaque qui aurait, soit-disant, traversé les siècles tout en conservant des vertus miraculeuses, il n’y a aucune raison de ne pas prêter un grand crédit à la synthèse exhaustive qu’il nous présente aujourd’hui. Elle est aussi crédible, si ce n’est davantage, que toutes les gougnaferies servies jusqu’à présent.Contexte théologique et historique:
Circoncision de Ben Gourion sur le retable des douze Badernes de Friedrich Arschloch de Montespan 1466 1/2 aux prunes.
En tant que juif, saxophoniste et Nazaréen, Jésus a été circoncis le huitième jour après la naissance de la Mère Denis (Évangile de Saint Cul, II, 21 ; voir aussi Molossiens II, 11). Mais l’idée que le gigantesque prépuce de Jésus ait été conservé intact et sentant la rose, dans le formol, par les nonnes de Saint Frusquin, et que, de plus, il ait été transmis à travers le tuyau des chiottes et les âges, n’a aucun caractère de vraisemblance historique. Ah bon ? C’est une chose qui n’a pas échappé au sphincter du pape Sixte Quint, ni même à la piété naïve du Moyen Age et du Printemps de Bourges réunis, et qui explique le succès très variable, disons même l’échec total, des différentes tentatives et manigances qui ont été faites ici et là, et même dans le fond de mon garage, pour faire croire qu’on le possédait.
Ainsi, par exemple, l’abbaye de Con(ques) qui était dans ce cas(geot), n’a réussi à devenir un centre de pèlerinage fornicatoire qu’après avoir récupéré à Agen (voleurs !) les mamelles de la jeune martyre sainte Foy de Vaux. D’où, par la suite, la querelle des deux veaux, un pour chaque mamelle..
Le saint prépuce n’intéressait personne, ce qui est grand dommage, car c’est lui que les Américains (ou les anglais, va savoir) ont utilisé plus tard pour mettre au point le procédé de la vulcanisation. Cependant, dans le doute où l’on était sur l’authenticité (on se demande comment quelqu’un peut douter de ça) de ce genre de reliques à la mords-moi-la, il était hors de question de les détruire, et c’est ce qui explique leur multiplicité et leur prolifération. Un prépuce, ça va ! 273.874 prépuces, c’est trop !!!
Cependant, à l’abbaye de Culomb, une croyance locale prêtait (à 11,5 pour cent) au saint prépuce le pouvoir d’apporter la chaude-lance et la fécondité aux femmes bréhaignes ou stériles[2] et un accouchement sans difficulté aux femmes enceintes[3] de plus de 23 mois et aux antipodistes guatémaltèques. Alors que Catherine de Valois , la fameuse strip-teaseuse, était enceinte jusqu’au front en 1421 ou en 1227, je ne sais plus, son mari, le roi Ubu d’Angleterre, à qui une bulle du pape Martin V accordait le privilège de pouvoir utiliser sa troisième main pour déplacer les reliques[4], et de faire des crêpes avec la quatrième, fit emprunter et apporter à son abominable épouse, en Angleterre ou au Paraguay (les livres d’histoire ne sont pas très précis sur ce point), le saint prépuce de l’abbaye de Culombs[5.] La relique fut ensuite frite avec des petits oignons et renvoyée en France pour être exposée à la Sainte-Maquerelle à Montastruc[6. ]Les moines bénédictins de Culombs durent s’adresser en 1069 au duc de Bedfor-Nikateurd, régent du jeune Henri Chapier, pour la faire transférer à l’abbaye de Montre-Tout de Pont-à-Mousson[7], puis en 2009 au roi de France Nicolas 1er, pour en reprendre possession, sans toutefois pouvoir lui faire quitter Montastruc. C’est Jean Labitault, abbé de Culombs de 1442 à 2027[8], un petit malin, qui fit revenir plus tard la relique à Culombs[9], dissimulée dans les parties génitales de sa maîtresse, la Goulue.
Lieux de conservation
Moyen Âge
Au Moyen Âge, il y eut jusqu’à quatorze « saints prépuces » conservés dans diverses villes européennes[10] et généralement mêlés à des collections de reliques du même genre : dents de laits de l’Enfant Jésus, saint ombilic, testicule de Saint-Cucufa, hémorroïde de Marie-Madeleine, fémur de Saint-Paul, goître de Sainte Monique Kirikanton Lanique, fœtus de la Vierge Marie, dégueulis de Saint-Pierre (survenu un jour qu’il avait trop bu de l’eau changée en vin par son patron)… etc.
La première trace d’une relique du saint prépuce est celle qui aurait été donnée au pape Léon III par Charlemagne lors de son couronnement, le 25 décembre 800. On raconte aussi que c’est un ange qui le lui avait apporté pendant qu’il se masturbait devant le Saint-Sépulcre (alors qu’il n’a jamais quitté l’Europe). Mais son organe était tellement démesuré, qu’il pouvait se branler en Palestine tout en festoyant à Aix-la-Chapelle. Une autre tradition en fait un cadeau de mariage offert par l’Impératrice de Byzance, la fameuse pute Irène l’Athénienne. Le pape l’aurait placé, après en avoir dégusté une partie, dans le Sancta sanctorum, une annexe du Babaorum de la Basilique de Latran-Kilité à Rome, avec d’autres reliques. Il s’agit dans tous les cas de légendes tardives dont aucune ne s’appuie sur un document d’époque carolingienne, mais qui sont attestées de façon irréfutable par Hara-Kiri et par l’Almanach Vermot..En plus de Rome, d’autres lieux ont prétendu détenir le saint prépuce : en Espagne, Saint-Jacques-de-Compostelle et Picamoixons; en Allemagne, Hildesheim et Tagen-Sèchtell ; en Belgique, Anvers[11] (et Contretous) ; en France Metz-y, Montastruc, Bèzancon, Langres-Noire, Fécal, Chatres, Nœud-Vert, Moncuq, ainsi que Culombs qui se trouve aussi dans le diocèse de Chatres ; la cathédrale du Puy-en-Velu, le monastère de Con(ques), les églises de Chat-Roux (où l’on faisait également remonter la donation de cette relique à ce vieux cochon de Charlemagne) et de Vibret[12].
Voltaire, dans son Dictionnaire philosophique, y ajoute Compiègne[13], mais il se trompe, car la relique qui était conservée au monastère Saint-Corneille de Compiègne n’était que le couteau qui aurait servi à opérer la circoncision de Jésus[14].
Sur ce couteau, on voyait encore des traces de la relique, malgré la dévotion des nonnes de Compiègne qui se précipitaient pour lécher la lame à l’occasion de la fête annuelle des Rase-Mottes, célébrée en présence de l’Archevêque du coin, qui donnait le premier coup de rasoir. On avait de même à l’église romaine de San Jacopo in Borgo la pierre sur laquelle on avait circoncis l’Enfant[15]et qui sert maintenant à rouler les canneloni.
Une autre liste allemande, encore plus bouffonne, y ajoute l’Abbaye d’Anlèchs-Moila en Bavière (et le Quid Clermont, mais il semble que ce soit par confusion avec un morceau du saint ombilic qui y était conservé dans la moutarde).
Situation actuelle
Plusieurs saints prépuces, comme tant d’autres reliques, ont été détruits à coups de marteau et de pics à glace pendant la Révolution française.
Eglise Santissimo Nome di Gesù (du Très Saint Nom de Jésus) à Calcutta
Le village indien de Calcutta mérite une mention spéciale. En 1557 avant JC, on y aurait découvert le saint prépuce, volé trente ans auparavant par un soldat allemand lors du sac de pommes de terre de Rome de 7311 [16] . Jusqu’en 1983, une procession où l’on vénérait ce saint prépuce parcourait les rues du village le 1er janvier, jour de la circoncision. Mais des voleurs s’emparèrent du reliquaire et de son contenu, ce qui mit un terme à cette cérémonie.
Il ne semble plus y avoir d’autres saints prépuces en Italie[17], mais il reste en France au moins ceux de Con(ques) et de Vibret(masseur), et en Belgique celui d’Anvers-et-Contretous (dont la confrérie de vieux couillons serait toujours en activité dans les bordels de la ville(?)).
Échos suscités par le Saint Prépuce
Périodiquement le thème de cette relique a été agité pour tourner en dérision certains aspects du catholicisme.- Déjà Jean Calvin dans son Traité des reliques (1543) se demande comment le prépuce de Jésus a pu être conservé dans la moutarde, et surtout comment il peut se trouver à la fois à Char-roue (à plat) et à Rome[18].
- Dans son Traité sur la Maison de Tolérance (1763), Voltaire s’est moqué de la vénération au saint prépuce, la considérant toutefois comme une superstition moins dangereuse que de brûler vif et de torturer son prochain, actions pratiquées alors couramment par les religieux. Dans son Dictionnaire philosophique (1764), à l’article « Prépuce », il remarque plus simplement « qu’il y a peut-être un peu de connerie dans cette piété mal entendue ».
- Le libre penseur Collin de Plancy note en 1821 que les évêques catholiques eux-mêmes étaient parfois critiques ; il rapporte une anecdote où Gaston de Mescouilles, évêque de Châlons-sur-Marne de 1695 à 1720, sous la Régence, fit expertiser puis détruire un saint prépuce conservé à la collégiale de Notre-Dame-en-Ris-de-Vaux. Mais il se trompe, car il s’agissait d’un saint nombril[19], comme il le note lui-même l’année suivante[20]. Depuis la décision de l’évêque, la Collégiale est en deuil, et les moines tentent de remplacer leur belle relique par toutes sortes de cochonneries : la rate du pape Paul VI, conservée miraculeusement dans une blague à tabac ayant appartenu à Gengis Khan, l’utérus de Sainte-Anne, préparé à l’escabèche, les roustons de Saint-François d’Assise et la prostate de Vercingétorix.
- En 1887, les libres-penseurs G. W. Foote-Ball et J. M. Kouinneur, dans leur ouvrage Crimes of Christianity (Les crimes du christianisme) rapportent une fable extravagante, selon laquelle un auteur catholique, Leone Allachi-dans-la-Colle (1586-1669), aurait même écrit un traité Sur le Prépuce de Notre-Seigneur Jésus-Christ, destiné à démontrer que lors de son Ascension, Jésus aurait vu son prépuce, monté au ciel avec lui, dans la même montgolfière, donner naissance aux anneaux de la planète Saturne, découverts en 1610[21]. Excusez-moi, mais je suis incapable d’inventer une connerie plus grosse que celle-là, et je me vois contraint de ne pas modifier le texte de Wikipedia.
- Baudolino (Léhom), dans le roman éponyme d’Umberto Eco paru en 2000, prétend avoir vu à Rome le saint prépuce et le saint ombilic en compagnie de Frédéric Barberousse, un jour qu’ils avaient un peu forcé sur le Lacryma Christi.
- Enfin, en 2007, ce type de relique a fait l’objet de divers canulars obscènes[22], répercutés en particulier dans un article du Guardian reproduit dans Courrier international[23] et que je me ferai un plaisir de communiquer sur demande.
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Germany’s Jews and Muslims 'outraged' as circumcision is ruled to cause bodily harm and infringe child's rights
European Jewish leaders furiously condemned a German court's ruling outlawing circumcision as the "worst attack on Jews since the Holocaust" yesterday and demanded that Chancellor Angela Merkel's government intervene to protect the practice as a religious rite.
The damning remarks came amid growing European Jewish and Muslim
outrage over a ruling by a Cologne court last month declaring that the
circumcision of young boys could be considered a criminal offence
because it caused bodily harm and infringed a child's right to
integrity.
Yesterday, Moscow's Chief Rabbi Pinchas Goldschmidt, the president of the Conference of European Rabbis who made the Holocaust comments, added: "I see no future for Jews in Germany if the ruling is upheld".
Opinion polls conducted after the ruling found that a majority of Germans approved of the court's decision. Rabbi Goldschmidt said the poll's findings were "shocking". He said the court's ruling suggested that Muslims and Jews were no longer socially acceptable in Europe.
His remarks followed a strongly worded statement from European Jewish and Muslim community leaders, which underlined that circumcision was fundamental to both faiths, and demanded that the German government intervene to grant the practice legal protection.
They described the Cologne court decision as: "an affront to our basic religious and human rights."
The statement was signed, among others, by the heads of the European Jewish Parliament, the Rabbinical Centre of Europe, the European Jewish Association, Germany's Islamic Union for religious Affairs and the Islamic Centre in Brussels. Leaders from both faiths also met members of the German and European parliaments to voice their anger at the court's decision and demand that clear legal protection of the rite be established.
Chancellor Merkel's government has so far avoided taking sides in the deepening debate in Germany.
However, the latest European Jewish and Muslim initiative will have dramatically increased the pressure on her coalition to take some action.
Germany's Green Party was among the first to respond yesterday. Renate Künast, the party's parliamentary leader said the Greens wanted to give Muslims and Jews legal security with new laws guaranteeing the right to circumcision on religious grounds. "We want to find a way which does not punish circumcision," she said.
In the wake of the Cologne court ruling Germany's Medical Association advised doctors to stop performing the operation because they could face legal consequences. The court's decision also prompted two Berlin hospitals to call a temporary halt to the procedure.
However, another influential doctor's organisation, the Hartmannbund said it fully supported Jewish and Muslim objections to the court's ruling. "Turning a hitherto generally accepted religious practice into a criminal offence amounts to one of the biggest forms of discrimination imaginable", said Bernd Lücke, a spokesman.
The Cologne ruling centred on the case of a four-year-old Muslim boy who was circumcised in one of the city's clinics in November 2010 on the express wishes of his parents.
Two days after the operation, the child's mother took the boy to the accident and emergency unit at Cologne University hospital because he was suffering from severe bleeding. State prosecutors subsequently charged the doctor who performed the operation.
A lower court found that the doctor had carried out the operation properly and ruled that the child's circumcision was in his interests as it signified his membership of the Muslim community. However the prosecution appealed to a higher Cologne court which overruled the lower court's verdict.
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"severe bleeding" ???????
By AFP | AFP – Sun, Jul 7, 2013
The 30 deaths in rural Eastern Cape province occurred during the
annual season when young males undergo a rite of passage into manhood.
Ten other youths were hospitalised after being rescued from a forest on Sunday, said provincial health department spokesman Sizwe Kupelo in a statement.
"The ten initiates' private parts are rotten. They are badly damaged. Their condition is scary," he said.
A further 293 young men were undergoing hospital treatment for dehydration, gangrene and septic wounds, Kupelo added.
Some had lost their genitals.
Teenagers from ethnic Xhosa, Sotho and Ndebele groups typically spend around a month in secluded bush or mountains areas for their initiation to manhood.
This includes a circumcision as well as lessons on masculine courage and discipline.
Traditional surgeons perform the procedure in the bush, sometimes with unsterilised instruments or lacking in technique.
Botched circumcisions leading to penis amputations and deaths are an annual tragedy.
In May around 34 deaths in two other provinces were reported.
The ruling African National Congress said Sunday it was "distressed" over the latest deaths.
It called for basic medical training of the traditional surgeons to render "an entrenched and necessary part of our cultural fabric" safer.
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The number of men being diagnosed with
cancer of the penis has soared by 20 per cent in the last 30 years,
according to new figures.
Experts believe the main reasons for the increase may be changes in sexual behaviour, greater exposure to sexually transmitted HPV (human papilloma virus) and decreasing rates of childhood circumcision.
HPV-related genital warts are associated with a six-fold risk of penile cancer and the incidence of them has rapidly increased in men between 1970 to 2009, with a 30 per cent rise during 2000–2009.
Cancer charities are now urging men to be aware of symptoms of the disease - which are often confused with signs of a sexually transmitted infection.
Penile cancer has a high cure rate if detected early, but some men, such as Nigel Smith, from Wolverhampton, are misdiagnosed.
He was told at a sexual health clinic that he had a genital wart that would go away in time.
It didn't, but rather than seek help, Nigel hid his symptoms from his wife for 12 months by sleeping in their spare bedroom, using his snoring as an excuse.
He was eventually diagnosed with penile cancer in 2011, aged 58, and last year underwent a partial penectomy (partial removal of the penis). He is currently considering reconstructive surgery.
He said: 'If my GP had sent me to a urologist rather than a sex clinic, the cancer could have been diagnosed at stage 1 and treated.
'By the time I saw a urologist, the cancer was stage 3 – one stage away from terminal. I’m now in temporary remission but there’s a 50/50 chance that the disease will return as a secondary cancer – maybe in my lungs or liver.
'Every time I go to the toilet I have a painful reminder of what’s happened, so it’s hard to put things behind me.
'The sexual side of my marriage has ended. I’m 60 but I’m a young 60! It shouldn’t be the end yet.
'The psychological impact of it all is massive. It’s more traumatic than anyone who hasn’t been through this can know.
'I
didn’t talk about my symptoms for so long and hid them from my wife.
It’s a man thing; we ignore things and hope they’ll go away. If you find
something, you need to get it looked at.'
The new research, published in the journal Cancer Causes Control, was supported by the male cancer charity Orchid.
The charity's chief executive, Rebecca Porta, said: 'The research shows that the incidence of this devastating cancer, which currently receives little recognition, is on the increase.
'Unlike other more common cancers, penile cancer is rare and many men feel embarrassed and unable to talk openly about it.
'This can lead to feelings of isolation at a time when support is vital. It is very important that men are aware of the warning signs and symptoms of the disease and that those with worrying symptoms seek medical advice as soon as possible.'
Cancer can develop anywhere in the penis, but the most common places are under the foreskin and on the head (the glans).
The exact cause of penile cancer is unknown, but various factors have been linked to an increased risk.
HPV-related genital warts are associated with a six-fold risk of penile cancer. There are over 100 types of HPV virus and only two strains have been linked with penile cancer. However both these strains are also linked to throat, cervical and anal cancer.
A man’s risk of developing cancer of the penis is greater if he smokes. It has been suggested that smoking may act as a co-factor that modulates the risk of progression from HPV infection to premalignant lesions and invasive penile cancer.
Furthermore, the toxic chemicals found in tobabcco are excreted in the urine. A build up of these substances under the foreskin may cause changes in the normal healthy cells of the skin, which may lead to cancerous cells developing.
Men who are uncircumcised are also at greater risk. This is because they may find it more difficult to pull back the foreskin enough to clean thoroughly underneath, resulting in poor hygiene.
This may lead to a build up of chemical substances that may cause irritation of the skin and lead to cancerous changes.
For more information: http://www.orchid-cancer.org.uk/Penile-Cancer
Yesterday, Moscow's Chief Rabbi Pinchas Goldschmidt, the president of the Conference of European Rabbis who made the Holocaust comments, added: "I see no future for Jews in Germany if the ruling is upheld".
Opinion polls conducted after the ruling found that a majority of Germans approved of the court's decision. Rabbi Goldschmidt said the poll's findings were "shocking". He said the court's ruling suggested that Muslims and Jews were no longer socially acceptable in Europe.
His remarks followed a strongly worded statement from European Jewish and Muslim community leaders, which underlined that circumcision was fundamental to both faiths, and demanded that the German government intervene to grant the practice legal protection.
They described the Cologne court decision as: "an affront to our basic religious and human rights."
The statement was signed, among others, by the heads of the European Jewish Parliament, the Rabbinical Centre of Europe, the European Jewish Association, Germany's Islamic Union for religious Affairs and the Islamic Centre in Brussels. Leaders from both faiths also met members of the German and European parliaments to voice their anger at the court's decision and demand that clear legal protection of the rite be established.
Chancellor Merkel's government has so far avoided taking sides in the deepening debate in Germany.
However, the latest European Jewish and Muslim initiative will have dramatically increased the pressure on her coalition to take some action.
Germany's Green Party was among the first to respond yesterday. Renate Künast, the party's parliamentary leader said the Greens wanted to give Muslims and Jews legal security with new laws guaranteeing the right to circumcision on religious grounds. "We want to find a way which does not punish circumcision," she said.
In the wake of the Cologne court ruling Germany's Medical Association advised doctors to stop performing the operation because they could face legal consequences. The court's decision also prompted two Berlin hospitals to call a temporary halt to the procedure.
However, another influential doctor's organisation, the Hartmannbund said it fully supported Jewish and Muslim objections to the court's ruling. "Turning a hitherto generally accepted religious practice into a criminal offence amounts to one of the biggest forms of discrimination imaginable", said Bernd Lücke, a spokesman.
The Cologne ruling centred on the case of a four-year-old Muslim boy who was circumcised in one of the city's clinics in November 2010 on the express wishes of his parents.
Two days after the operation, the child's mother took the boy to the accident and emergency unit at Cologne University hospital because he was suffering from severe bleeding. State prosecutors subsequently charged the doctor who performed the operation.
A lower court found that the doctor had carried out the operation properly and ruled that the child's circumcision was in his interests as it signified his membership of the Muslim community. However the prosecution appealed to a higher Cologne court which overruled the lower court's verdict.
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"severe bleeding" ???????
30 South African men killed in ritual circumcision
By AFP | AFP – Sun, Jul 7, 2013- View PhotoAFP/AFP/File - Boys from the Xhosa tribe who have undergone a circumcision ceremony are pictured near Qunu, South Africa, on June 28, 2013. Botched circumcisions killed 30 young men and landed almost 300 more
Botched circumcisions killed 30 young men and landed
almost 300 more in hospital during traditional initiation rites in a
South African province, the health department said Sunday.
Ten other youths were hospitalised after being rescued from a forest on Sunday, said provincial health department spokesman Sizwe Kupelo in a statement.
"The ten initiates' private parts are rotten. They are badly damaged. Their condition is scary," he said.
A further 293 young men were undergoing hospital treatment for dehydration, gangrene and septic wounds, Kupelo added.
Some had lost their genitals.
Teenagers from ethnic Xhosa, Sotho and Ndebele groups typically spend around a month in secluded bush or mountains areas for their initiation to manhood.
This includes a circumcision as well as lessons on masculine courage and discipline.
Traditional surgeons perform the procedure in the bush, sometimes with unsterilised instruments or lacking in technique.
Botched circumcisions leading to penis amputations and deaths are an annual tragedy.
In May around 34 deaths in two other provinces were reported.
The ruling African National Congress said Sunday it was "distressed" over the latest deaths.
It called for basic medical training of the traditional surgeons to render "an entrenched and necessary part of our cultural fabric" safer.
The rise of PENIS cancer: Cases soar by 20% amidst fears that symptoms are being misdiagnosed as STDs
- Number of men diagnosed with disease has risen dramatically in 30 years
- May be due to changes in sexual behaviour, greater exposure to the human papilloma virus and decreasing rates of childhood circumcision
- Men who smoke are also more likely to get penile cancer
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Warning: Nigel Smith's penile cancer was originally diagnosed as a genital wart - an error which nearly cost him his life
Experts believe the main reasons for the increase may be changes in sexual behaviour, greater exposure to sexually transmitted HPV (human papilloma virus) and decreasing rates of childhood circumcision.
HPV-related genital warts are associated with a six-fold risk of penile cancer and the incidence of them has rapidly increased in men between 1970 to 2009, with a 30 per cent rise during 2000–2009.
Cancer charities are now urging men to be aware of symptoms of the disease - which are often confused with signs of a sexually transmitted infection.
Penile cancer has a high cure rate if detected early, but some men, such as Nigel Smith, from Wolverhampton, are misdiagnosed.
He was told at a sexual health clinic that he had a genital wart that would go away in time.
It didn't, but rather than seek help, Nigel hid his symptoms from his wife for 12 months by sleeping in their spare bedroom, using his snoring as an excuse.
He was eventually diagnosed with penile cancer in 2011, aged 58, and last year underwent a partial penectomy (partial removal of the penis). He is currently considering reconstructive surgery.
He said: 'If my GP had sent me to a urologist rather than a sex clinic, the cancer could have been diagnosed at stage 1 and treated.
'By the time I saw a urologist, the cancer was stage 3 – one stage away from terminal. I’m now in temporary remission but there’s a 50/50 chance that the disease will return as a secondary cancer – maybe in my lungs or liver.
'Every time I go to the toilet I have a painful reminder of what’s happened, so it’s hard to put things behind me.
'The sexual side of my marriage has ended. I’m 60 but I’m a young 60! It shouldn’t be the end yet.
'The psychological impact of it all is massive. It’s more traumatic than anyone who hasn’t been through this can know.
PENILE CANCER SYMPTOMS
A painless lump or ulcer on the penis that doesn't heal
Bleeding
A red rash under the foreskin
Flat growths of brownish colour
Difficulty in drawing back the foreskin
Unusual smelling discharge from under the foreskin
Unexplained change in colour of the skin
Swollen lymph nodes in your groin area
Bleeding
A red rash under the foreskin
Flat growths of brownish colour
Difficulty in drawing back the foreskin
Unusual smelling discharge from under the foreskin
Unexplained change in colour of the skin
Swollen lymph nodes in your groin area
The new research, published in the journal Cancer Causes Control, was supported by the male cancer charity Orchid.
The charity's chief executive, Rebecca Porta, said: 'The research shows that the incidence of this devastating cancer, which currently receives little recognition, is on the increase.
'Unlike other more common cancers, penile cancer is rare and many men feel embarrassed and unable to talk openly about it.
'This can lead to feelings of isolation at a time when support is vital. It is very important that men are aware of the warning signs and symptoms of the disease and that those with worrying symptoms seek medical advice as soon as possible.'
Cancer can develop anywhere in the penis, but the most common places are under the foreskin and on the head (the glans).
The exact cause of penile cancer is unknown, but various factors have been linked to an increased risk.
HPV-related genital warts are associated with a six-fold risk of penile cancer. There are over 100 types of HPV virus and only two strains have been linked with penile cancer. However both these strains are also linked to throat, cervical and anal cancer.
Worrying: Experts believe the main reasons for
the increase in penile cancer may be changes in sexual behaviour,
greater exposure to sexually transmitted HPV (human papilloma virus) and
decreasing rates of childhood circumcision
A man’s risk of developing cancer of the penis is greater if he smokes. It has been suggested that smoking may act as a co-factor that modulates the risk of progression from HPV infection to premalignant lesions and invasive penile cancer.
Furthermore, the toxic chemicals found in tobabcco are excreted in the urine. A build up of these substances under the foreskin may cause changes in the normal healthy cells of the skin, which may lead to cancerous cells developing.
Men who are uncircumcised are also at greater risk. This is because they may find it more difficult to pull back the foreskin enough to clean thoroughly underneath, resulting in poor hygiene.
This may lead to a build up of chemical substances that may cause irritation of the skin and lead to cancerous changes.
For more information: http://www.orchid-cancer.org.uk/Penile-Cancer
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