Tuesday, 9 August 2011

The engineered collapse of the West

Monday, August 08, 2011


Black Man shot dead by Police in Tottenham Hale, Lond



The later story that the CO19 Police Officer in Tottenham  Hale was shot at first but was saved by his radio sounds very much like a Wild West story where a Sheriff  kills a Native Indian and then claims that it was in self-defence because he was shot at first but ‘saved’ by his star badge.


Mark Duggan, shot twice by elite CO19 officers in Tottenham, London


Going to work by car on Friday 5th August 2011 around 7 am, I was stopped by the Police at Blackhorse Road Station junction.  The Officer asked which way I was going and advised that I take the A406 North Circular Road instead as all roads  through Tottenham Hale have been closed.  I read the same morning that it was due to a Police Officer being ‘shot’ in Ferry Lane, Tottenham Hale the previous day at 6.15pm.  Returning from work the same day, the other end of Tottenham Hale was still blocked and all traffic deviated.  It did look very strange that the Police had blocked this road on both sides for over 24 hours and still longer as the night wore on.  Given the efficiency and speed of the London Metropolitan Police, within a few hours, they should have gathered all evidence and restore life to normal.  But it was not to be.  Why?

In truth, the elite CO19 Officers working closely with the Trident Operational Command Unit (OCU) is the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on gun related murders within the black community, had shot dead a Black man, a certain Mark Duggan, 29-year-old father-of-four, allegedly in self-defence because he had shot at an Officer first.  The Officer was admitted to hospital but released shortly afterwards because his injury was not serious.  The story got better.  The Officer was allegedly miraculously saved by his radio which had taken the brunt of the Black man’s bullet.  The story got better still.  Mark Duggan was known to the Police who were already keeping an eye on him.  He was shot dead not by the Officer who he allegedly shot at, but by other Officers on the scene.  Mark Duggan was killed, some say « murdered », on the spot by two bullets either from the same gun or from two separate Officers.

Police blocked residents and potential witnesses
Mark Duggan’s family and those who knew him agreed that he may have been involved in things, but that he was never an aggressive person and never hurt anyone.  They could not understand how he could have been killed by Police in such a way.  Any case of Police shooting is automatically referred to the Police so-called Independent Complaints Commission (ICC) even though no one makes any complaint.  So far, there is no independent corroboration of anything as all information comes from the Police.  The area was sealed off by Police and residents and others suspect that the Police themselves may well tamper with the evidence and interfere with witnesses to cover-up any wrongdoing.  The residents were not allowed home after the killing.  Even « Shoppers who were in a supermarket in Ferry Lane were not allowed to leave as police taped off the entrance to the store », Haringey Independent, 5th August 2011.

The same techniques were used when, on 22nd July 2005 at Stockwell tube station, Jean Charles de Menezes was shot dead by a CO19 Officer on the tube with 8 bullets in his head and chest.  Like Mark Duggan, he too was being watched by the Police.  CCTV footages were confiscated and later alleged not to have been working.  The Police even alleged that he was wearing a bulky jacket under which he was hiding a suicide vest when, in truth, he was wearing no jacket at all, but they still killed him ruthlessly anyway and the ICC exonerated the unnamed Officer in question.  Similar techniques were used during 9/11 when all witnesses were intimidated and CCTV footages confiscated around the Pentagon because the building was hit by a guided missile and not by a passenger plane as alleged.  Even the eye witnesses who said that the planes which sliced through the Twin Towers were unmarked military planes without windows were suppressed.

The later story that the CO19 Police Officer in Tottenham  Hale was shot at first but was saved by his radio sounds very much like a Wild West story where a Sheriff  kills a Native Indian and then claims that it was in self-defence because he was shot at first but ‘saved’ by his star badge.  Even though Mark Duggan may have been carrying a gun (unlawfully) for his safety because he was apparently the target of a gang after his friend Kelvin Easton was killed by stabbing in Mile End on 27th March 2011, so far, there is no independent corroboration that on 4th August 2011 he shot at any Police Officer.  People who know him reject this allegation and his killing sparked riots in Tottenham, spilling into Wood Green area, some reports say.  Police cars, a bus and shops were attacked and burnt and many Police Officers injured.  Black local MP David Lammy appealed for calm, arguing that to understand such violent killing, « we must have calm » as resorting to unlawful acts can only complicate matters.  But, as is usually the case, the ICC is expected to exonerate the Police. 

Case of Ian Tomlinson
People would remember the protests at the G20 summit in London in 2009.  Ian Tomlinson was not even a protester; he was walking home when he was savagely pushed to the ground by a brutal Police Officer, from which he died.  The mainstream media spun the story away from what really happened as they repeated Police allegations as fact without corroboration.   The Daily Telegraph said : « As officers went to the man’s aid, they were pelted with bottles and other missiles, forcing them to retreat. »  Even though there were various independent photograghs and footages, the ICC found nothing wrong and exonerated the Officer in question.  But, although an inquiry found that Ian Tomlinson was unlawfully killed, it went out of its way to say that the Police « did not try to cover up Ian Tomlinson G20 death ».

In the case of the killing of Mark Duggan, not by the CO19 Officer who was allegedly shot at first and miraculously saved by his radio, but by other CO19 Officers present at the scene, there are no such photographs and footages and no independent corroboration of the Police stories.  But one thing seems certain - the other Officers must have had their guns already pointed at Mark Duggan well before the alleged attempt to arrest him on 4th August 2011.

M Rafic Soormally
London
7th August 2011

 

Tuesday, August 09, 2011


The engineered collapse of the West : Wall Street and the City are falling, and 'spontaneous riots' started exactly as the fake 'muslim riots' that took place in France in October-November 2005. Agent provocateurs infiltatred and controlling gangs, drug networks, backed logisticaly by former cops, secret services working for the NATO clandestine terror networks. We are seeing the exact same frame, scenarios, scenes unfolding here in London and now going viral all over the UK 

 

Except local looters, in the actual atmosphere who really benefits?

Here is what I've been told and receive as information from different sources during the last 72 hours. I recommend that you read the false flag series for the UK, wrote with Captain Eric May to get the bigger picture. One of my EU top source explained that David Cameron sent messages to Angela Merkel, Nicolas Sarkozy, Barak Obama explaining that he will probably have to resign from his position because of the coming explosives revelations involving the British secret services, Ruppert Murdoch, New of The World and the make up of the Iraq War, and consequently the false flag operation 7/7/2005. 


NOWT scandal is just at the very beginning and it is like we said, a huge spying network that has been uncovered since 2009, covered up by the metropolitan police, MOD and the foreign affairs. Our sources explain that basically what is going one is that 'the combination of the austerity, the long economical crisis mainly due to the death of the dollar and the race to control the new transatlantic market between Germany, UK, Washington, and the NOTW scandal tool as a weapon in this open fight between clans' is used by different clans in Washington, London, Brussels to impose more drastic cuts, more austerity measures, emergency-martial law preserve the UK financial role in the 'shaping of the euramerica transatlantic market' in building for 2015, and David Cameron's chance to be re-elected after the government collapse at the fall of the year 2011 because of the Murdoch-Israel spying networks affair. The non intervention of the police and the very slow response, combined with a huge mobility of the 'gangs' is also very suspicious. Obviously 'emergency law' or 'martial law' will see Cameron staying at his place avoiding polls for at least another one year or more.  There was a huge amount of pressure on Nick Clegg to pull out from the government in October, and these riots have the opposite effects. So who really benefits ? 
Remember mossadnik Sarkozy in 2005. Riots were deliberately provoked to build a 'mister Sarkozy security image to the public' and help him to be elected in 2007. Sarkozy was facing the National Front, headed by Jean Marie Le Pen, who said publicly on the TV, that he will win the election in 2007 'if there are massive riots in the French ghettos'.... NATO clandestine terror networks deeply infiltrated in the youth gangs in most of the french cities, mossad made the rest and helped Sarkozy to grab power in 2007. We have similar configuration here in London, where NATO is recruiting and controlling most of the former policemen forces sacked since the 2008 crisis, NATO and mossad are running some of the most important drug gang-rings from local youth to ex-yougoslavia, eastern europe, Nigerian, caribbeans, asian networks. We are talking about 9000  NATO stay behind force in total all over the UK/Ireland, combine this with the fake EDL, another NATO-MI5 front, some fake 'Muslim groups' as well managed by NATO-MI5-RAW-ISI connexions and you have an explosive cocktail the British banksters 'elite' can use at any time 'to impose a full dictatorship'.  These riots have all the trademarks of a stay behind 'strategy of tension' used by NATO, a private terrorist organization working for the highly financial criminals, who created Israel. Now destroying the dollar, creating chaos and pushing for a new transatlantic union, they call NWO for the sake of their new reign over the masses.
  

Read as well the excellent analogy made by Aangirfan : 

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2011/08/false-flag-london-riots.html

Monday, 8 August 2011

BLACK AND WHITE TERRORISTS ON THE RAMPAGE IN LONDON

  MARK DUGGAN 29 SHOT

Youtube: Comment

The riots happened for one reason and one reason only, black afro-caribbean culture is violent and lacking in morality. Black youths are more concerned with "jacking", stabbing people for "slippin'", acting bad, etc. I've never seen a black guy start trouble one on one with someone bigger than him, NEVER! It's always starting shit on someone smaller or when they outnumber the victim. Stop your bullshit &get a f.....g job! (Why Did the Tottenham Riots Happen? - Simeon Brown)

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From Enfield to Brixton via Blackberry: London riots day two roundup

As the authorities struggled to explain how they would prevent more trouble and residents expressed anger at the destruction, BlackBerry emerged as the looters' message system of choice
A damaged police vehicle is pictured in Enfield, north London
A damaged police vehicle is pictured in Enfield, north London, following a second night of disturbances in London, on August 8, 2011. Photograph: Ki Price/AFP/Getty Images
Police chiefs and political leaders have been struggling to account for a second night of violence and looting in London, much of which appeared to have been organised.
Politicians were facing criticism for being slow to respond, with the prime minister, the deputy prime minister, the home secretary and the London mayor all on holiday at the weekend.
A second night of violence on Sunday was far more widespread and sporadic than Saturday, with looting and vandalism reported in Enfield and Walthamstow in north-east London, Islington in north London, Brixton in the south, and Oxford Circus in central London.
This Google map shows what the police were facing on Sunday night, with incidents reported across a wide area of the capital.

View London unrest in a larger map

Far from the initial spark of violence in Tottenham, trouble spread to Brixton in south London – the scene of seminal riots in 1981 but today a much calmer, more diverse neighbourhood with an influx of home-owning middle classes priced out of more fashionable areas nearby.
An earlier festival had passed off without incident. But late in the evening, according to Guardian reporter Matthew Taylor, the mood altered.
The situation and atmosphere changed very quickly and there were reports from some witnesses that the group had arrived together on buses and in cars, but I can not confirm this.
Police appeared unprepared for the clashes and over the next three hours shops along the High Street were smashed and looted.
Men, women and teenagers helped themselves to goods and cash from H&M, Vodafone, McDonalds and T-Mobile, while a major fire took hold in Footlocker.
People were carrying armfuls of clothes and shoes and passing them to friends in cars, carrying them away balanced precariously on the back of scooters or on foot. Although the police had gathered in a nearby side street they did not intervene for more than an hour.
Debris outside a Foot Locker store in Brixton after it was broken into by looters Debris outside a Foot Locker store in Brixton after it was broken into by looters Photograph: Stefan Rousseau/PA The Metropolitan police, already struggling under criticism over the phone-hacking scandal that cost the job of its chief officer, appeared on the back foot, lacking the weight of numbers to deal adequately with a disparate and unpredictable threat.
The Met said Twitter users could be prosecuted for incitement to violence. Tim Godwin, the acting chief constable, described the looting as "opportunistic" and promised a "robust" response.
We will make sure that the stuff that we have seen come off the back of this – which is pure criminality, opportunistic criminality – is dealt with firmly and robustly.

But while the police promised to track down those who it believed had incited the violence on Twitter, it emerged that much of the planning took place in the relatively private world of the BlackBerry Messenger (BBM) service. The Guardian's Paul Lewis got hold of the message that urged people to Oxford Circus.

I've had multiple sources confirm this was the #OxfordCircus #BBM: http://t.co/slxMOAG #londonriotsless than a minute ago via web Favorite Retweet Reply

This is the full text of the message:
Everyone from all sides of London meet up at the heart of London (central) OXFORD CIRCUS!!, Bare SHOPS are gonna get smashed up so come get some (free stuff!!!) fuck the feds we will send them back with OUR riot! >:O
Dead the ends and colour war for now so
if you see a brother... SALUT!
if you see a fed... SHOOT!
We need more MAN then feds so Everyone run wild, all of london and others are invited! Pure terror and havoc & Free stuff....just smash shop windows and cart out da stuff u want! Oxford Circus!!!!! 9pm, we don't need pussyhole feds to run the streets and put our brothers in jail so tool up,
its a free world so have fun running wild shopping;)
Oxford Circus 9pm if u see a fed stopping a brother JUMP IN!!! EVERYONE JUMP IN niggers will be lurking about, all blacked out we strike at 9:15pm-9:30pm, make sure ur there see you there. REMEMBA DA LOCATION!!! OXFORD CIRCUS!!!
MUST REBROADCAST TO ALL CONTACTS!!!"
The Guardian's media and technology correspondent, Josh Halliday, explained the favour of BlackBerry Messenger.
Using BlackBerry handsets – the smartphone of choice for the majority (37%) of British teens, according to last week's Ofcom study – BBM allows users to send one-to-many messages to their network of contacts, who are connected by "BBM PINs".
And unlike Twitter or Facebook, many BBM messages are untraceable by the authorities (which is why, in large part, BBM is so favoured by Emirati teens to spread illicit gossip about officialdom).

Perhaps fearful of the negative impact of being associated with the "Blackberry Riots", the smartphone company felt compelled to issue a (Twitter) statement saying it was assisting the police with their inquiries.

We feel for those impacted by the riots in London. We have engaged with the authorities to assist in any way we can.less than a minute ago via CoTweet Favorite Retweet Reply

Meanwhile, as businesses and residents began the clear-up, people caught up in the violence expressed their anger and frustration. David Lawrence, who works with youth organisations in north London, said in a blog post for Comment is Free that he was "embarassed" to live in Tottenham.
I know people who have lost everything they ever owned because their homes were burned down over the weekend. I know people who have worked hard to create successful businesses and now have nothing to show for it. I know people who should be working today, but can't because their workplace no longer exists.
Among the most dramatic images to emerge from Saturday night's rioting was the burnt-out shell of the Carpet Right store in Tottenham.
In Tottenham, firefighters survey the burnt out shell of a carpet showroom on Tottenham High Road In Tottenham, firefighters survey the burnt out shell of a carpet showroom on Tottenham High Road. Photograph: Leon Neal/AFP/Getty Images The discount chain was founded by the Tory peer Lord Harris of Peckham in 1988. He has been on the BBC's World at One programme on Radio 4, and promised to help the "working class" people whose homes above his store had been destroyed by the fire.
My real sympathies are with all those people in the flats above me who are working class – and I don't mean that rudely – that have got nothing. They have only got the clothes they are in. The only thing I can say is that I'm pleased they all got out safely, because they could all have been killed.
I want to try to help them. I have asked my PR company to find out their names and see if we can get in touch with them, meet them and see if I can help in any way – give them money, or help them with clothes. I feel very, very sorry for them.
The catalyst for the weekend rioting was the shooting of a Tottenham man, Mark Duggan, on Thursday night. The investigation is being conducted by the Independent Police Complaints Commission, which responded to suggestions that it hasn't had enough contact with Duggan's family. The language appeared critical of the Met.
In the statement, the IPCC commissioner who is overseeing the independent investigation into Mark Duggan's death, Rachel Cerfontyne, said:
I am aware of various media reports suggesting that we have not had adequate contact with Mr Duggan's family since his death. Following my meeting with the family yesterday (Sunday) I am very clear that their concerns were not about lack of contact or support from the IPCC. Their concerns were about lack of contact from the police in delivering news of his death to Mark's parents.
It is never the responsibility of the IPCC to deliver a message regarding someone's death and I have told Mr Duggan's family that I would be addressing this issue with the Met and that, if necessary, this would become part of our investigation.
The voice of police officers involved in holding the line during these disturbances is rarely heard. But now, thanks to the ease with which anyone can publish their own accounts, we learn a little more about the thinking of rank-and-file officers.
A Twitter user going by the pseudonym of InspectorWinter, who describes himself as a "law enforcement officer" in his mid 30s, has written up a detailed blog post of his experiences policing the riots in north London last night.
Often it's hard to verify these anonymous accounts, but this user's feed has thousands of entries dating back months and appears authoritative. In a long and thoughtful post he writes of trying to comfort a shop owner whose livelihood has gone up in flames:
I simply do not know what to say to him ... it's genuinely heartbreaking. I do something I find myself doing a lot over the next few hours, telling him I'm sorry and then giving him a manly hug with a pat on the back. Helmet back on and we're off somewhere else.
He goes on to talk of his frustration at not being able to prevent the lawlessness:
I have never experienced looting of this scale, the wholesale sacking of shops is taking place, we know it is taking place and there is nothing we can do about it, a couple of the more hardcore members of my team want to "blat round and stop it", we're outnumbered, we're encumbered by protective equipment and we're drained. If we go blundering into this kind of situation we'll do more harm than good.
And he wanted to stress that most police officers understand the frustrations of the community over the shooting in Tottenham on Thursday.
The traditional, stereotypical, image of a public order police officer is that of some knuckle dragging man mountain who's main skill in life is being able to knock a door down in one hit. As I survey the people around me, none of them fit that. They're all reasonably intelligent, in the van there have been long discussions on what the cause of this is. We can understand the anger of the community over the shooting of Mark Duggan by armed police, we know that they want answers.
But we also know that at times the investigative process is painfully slow, waiting for forensics to come back can take a while, the laborious process of locating witness and then taking statements, tracking down CCTV and seizing copies of it, then reviewing it. All of these things are hard enough for us, let alone the IPCC, and I have very little idea of the size of their investigative teams, but I can't imagine they are that large.

Inevitably, crisis breeds creativity. This time-lapse video, uploaded to YouTube, shows in dramatic fashion how the fires spread in Tottenham on Saturday night and into Sunday morning.

Meanwhile the family of the man whose death is at the centre of the worst riots in London since the 1980s believe the media has "twisted" the truth about him. The Guardian's Patrick Barkham found them in their garden, discussing the traumatic events of the past five days. Bouquets have been laid outside.
Unsurprisingly they don't want to speak to the media, who they blame for 'twisting the truth' and telling 'all these lies' about Mark. 'He was a good man. He was a family man,' insists one relative.
Some members of the family want to try to put out a positive message but others are grieving and angered by the coverage in some tabloids. So it is time to leave them in peace. Whether Tottenham will have a peaceful night tonight remains to be seen. A police helicopter is hovering over the high road, where some residents are still without electricity after the riots on Saturday night.

London riots: What could happen next?

David Cameron has announced that an emergency parliamentary debate will be held on Thursday to discuss possible measures to quell the capital’s worst spell of widespread looting and disorder since Brixton in 1981.

With pressure mounting on Home Secretary Theresa May by fellow MPs to impose more draconian measures to stop the violence - here are some of the anti-riot tactics that are being considered so far.

August 9, 2011. British Prime Minister David Cameron said he would recall parliament from its summer recess for a day on Thursday after rioting swept through London for three consecutive nights. REUTERS/Stefan Wermuth (BRITAIN - Tags: CIVIL UNREST CRIME LAW POLITICS SOCIETY)
August 9, 2011. British Prime Minister David Cameron said he would recall parliament from its summer recess for …

More police

With over 6,000 police out in force last night from across the country (an extra 1,700 police officers from Sunday night) a total of 16,000 police officers will be on duty in the next 24 hours, the Twitter account for the Metropolitan Police warned. Scotland Yard has confirmed that 44 officers have been injured in the waves of ‘copycat criminal activity’ have been been spreading across London. Monday night was classed as the worst night of violence with a reported 20,000 calls to police and 200 arrests last night.

Met Police said in a statement that they used riot vans to push back London protesters on the third night of unrest in London and video footage from last night’s rioting in Clapham Junction, south London, shows armoured police vans being driven into crowds of perpetrators – an apparently successful approach.

Following an emergency meeting chaired by the Prime Minister today, David Cameron said more police will mean further arrests and court procedures will be speeded up. He warned: “Justice will be done and these people will see the consequences of their actions.”

The Metropolitan Police also confirmed today that all police leave has been cancelled and custody suites are full.

Curfews

Met commissioner Tim Godwin made a public statement today asking for a voluntary nighttime curfew and urged parents to do more to keep track of their children. Patrick Mercer, a Tory MP and former Army officer, amongst other MPs is calling for a temporary curfew on young people to curtail the riots.

Diane Abbott, a shadow minister and the Labour MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington, also agreed with the imposition of curfews: “These young people, who seem to have no stake in society, are trashing their own communities. We cannot continue to have increasing numbers of looters on the streets night after night.”

Online polls have seen a majority of the public believing imposing curfews would be a suitable response to the current situation.


Army

Bringing in the army as a measure of riot control has not been seen in England before. During the Los Angeles riots in 1992, 12,000 soldiers from the California Army National Guard were drafted in to quiet the unrest. Similarly the British army were present in Northern Ireland during the troubles.

In a Home Office statement, Theresa May said: “We can deal with it with robust policing and with the help of local communities. If there's anybody watching the programme who knows someone who was out on the streets, they should tell the police.

“Police are adapting tactics to deal with disturbances and I met with them this morning to ensure they have what they need.”

Others would disagree. On Twitter, local London MP Grahame Morris tweeted: “Recall parliament: Cancel police leave; Bring in army logistical support for 999 services: Appeal to get kids off the streets: Stop the cuts.”

Until emergency measures are properly discussed in a ministerial debate due to be held on Thursday, it is still unknown whether military presence will be called upon.

Water cannons

Water cannons like those used during the American civil rights movement, sectarian violence in Northern Ireland and 1930’s pre-Nazi Germany have also been rumoured as a possible tactic to prevent the disorder.

Former London mayor Ken Livingstone reportedly believes that police should be allowed to use the weapon to disperse protesters. “The issue of water cannons would be very useful given the level of arson we are seeing here.”

However, the Home Office insisted last night that there were no plans to approve the use of the extreme device on riot mobs, saying: “Water cannons are not approved for use on the mainland by the Home Office. A range of measures are available to the police to tackle disorder and we do not believe water cannons are needed.”

A Scotland Yard spokesman also said officers did not have any water cannons. If their use was approved, they would have to be brought over from Northern Ireland or France where they are used.

BlackBerry Messenger probe

Research in Motion has pledged to cooperate with the police to probe the role BlackBerry Messenger had in spiraling the disorder and to find the people responsible for inciting the looting and violence. It was revealed yesterday that London rioters used Blackberry Messenger to spread the word about looting sprees across the capital and the violence later seen Birmingham, Liverpool, Nottingham and Bristol.

BlackBerry UK said: “"We feel for those impacted by the riots in London. We have engaged with the authorities to assist in any way we can.”

Sunday, 7 August 2011

Sheikh Usama Bin Ladin Died In 2001 Pakistani Video

Jeff

Translation Of Pakistani Video - This Is The Truth - Osama Died In 2001

This is a translation of the video linked at the bottom and was translated by my friend Khan Taashk. THANK YOU my dear friend. I wish there were a way for ALL Americans to read this translation.

Anchor: Welcome back, Mohammad Bashir is a resident of Abboottabad's Bilal Town. Muhammad Bashir might seem an ordinary guy but he is no ordinary guy. Muhammad Bashir lives in front of Osama Ben Laden's house in Bilal Town Abbottabad. On 2nd of May, Muhammad Bashir was present on his rooftop from where he saw the whole American operation against Osama Ben Laden with his own eyes. Yesterday when our team was present In Bilal Town, Abbottabad, near Osama Ben Laden's hose, Muhammad Bashir came to us and said, "Sister, I need to tell you something, something that is a burden on my heart and soul", just listen to what he said.

Bashir: I am going to share something about the Abbottabad operation which till this day nobody else has told you.

Anchor: But Muhammad Bashir was a little afraid too, while talking to me he telephoned hia reletive, Vice President of Jummat-e-Islami, Abdur Razzaq Abasi, watch it

Reporter: Tell me your name and tell me whare do you live

Bashir: Let me first, Let me talk to him one minute, i will give you full interview, full or half?

Reporter: Full Full

Bashir: Let me first talk to him

Reporter: To whom? To abbasi?

Bashir: yes, to Abbasi

Anchor: Muhammad Bashir told us something that no one said before. So we checked his identity card, we also onfirmed that he really lives there, we asked from the senior fellows about him. We were very astonished by his story just see and listen what he said.

Bashir: We were awake, not asleep, a helicopter came, some men came down from that, into that house, then that helicopter went away

Reporter: How many men?

Bashir: 10-12, then that helicopter took rounds of those rear hills, then he came bac...k and when he came bach, two more helicopters arrived, one from the west and other from the north, there was a blast in the first helicopter and it was on fire, we immediately came out, when we reached there, the helicopter was burning, then after about 20 minutes the army and police arrived, they pushed us back, now we are asking that if oama was here then who took him to america because all those men that came in the helicopter died in the blast, now if Osama was in that helicopter he must have died and got burnt in that helicopter too, then how they took him? this is a question of serious concern. America claims they they killed him and picked him up. How they picked him up? This is what we are thinking

reporter: Was there only one helicopter?

Bashir? Yes the other that came flew away to Mansehra, there was only one that landed the men and came back to pick them but as he was picking them up, it blew away and caught fire.

Reporter: Then were in it when it blew?

Bashir: Yes They were.

Reporeter : How you know?

Bashir: We saw it with our own eyes

Reporter: You saw dead man?

Bashir: Yes, dead men,

Reporter: How many?

Bashir: I couldnt count them because then the compound was on fire. The gate was open, we went in, the army and police hadnt arrived then, there were some people but they werent stopping them. The whole neighbourhood has seen that but they are silent now.

Bashir: We saw the helicopter burning, we saw the dead bodies, then everything was removed and now there is nothing

Reporter: How many dead bodies you saw?

Bashir: We couldnt count them because they were blown into pieces.

Khan Taashk:

(Arrrrgh...... Loadshedding! power went out. Cant access the computer. But i have noted down all remaining points. I will explain them, not word to word as i cant access the video right now, but in my own words. I am from cell phone.)

Here is ...the remaining part,

the reporter asked Bashir to narrate the story again.

Bashir said we could see the faces of those men but they were speaking pashto. I dont know whether they were Pakistani or American army or people of agencies, as you know that agency people can speak many languages.

May be they were speaking pashto so that we consider them Pakistani.
They knocked and banged at our doors and told us not to come out.
I laid down on my rooftop and was watching them.
My kids were calling me, I told them to go to their rooms and let me check whats going on.

The reporter asks Bashir, that when he saw that the helicopter was American what was he thinking then?
Bashir said that he got afraid. He didn't had in his mind that they will attack that house. He thought that they might have come to attack the Pakistan Army.

The reporter asked so when was your cousin Shamraiz taken away?

Bashir : Shamrez was at our home, as the helicopter exploded, me and many others went out of our homes to see what happened. Shamrez also came out and the gate of the compound was open, we went in, every thing was lying scattered, as it is a huge compound, some body parts were lying here, some there, legs, arms, heads, broken and torn body parts, during that time some part of the helicopter inside, may be the engine or other fuel related part had an explosion so we rushed out. During that time Shamrez was taken away, he is in his home now, but no one is allowed to meet him and i couldn't get a chance to talk to him later.

Then the anchor says that they had vegetations inside the compound and Shamrez was their gardener. We know that two men Arshad and Tariq used to live there. They had good relations with the neighbours, they used to buy things from the local store. Sometimes imported dates and used to send many things to their neighbours.

Then the reporter is at Abdullah Ben Zubair Mosque, which is the nearest to compound of Osama.
She asks a guy: do you think people would have been glad and happy if they would have ever met osama?
The guy : Yes, possibly. Because he was a muslim and he believed in God.

This is the whole story! Every aspect and point translated. :)

Another translation from my dear friend Saba Quraishi, and thank you!!:
Saba Quraishi

Yes jeff The two translations are the same as mine. no need to repeat. I will send it to you privately if you wish. The gentleman being interviewed lives across from the compound. His cousin Sahab Jamrez Khan used to grow vegetables in the compound. He was taken away in all the hullabaloo on tape @10.29 Bashir says he did not see when they wisked his cousin away.

Interviewer asks "Have you spoken to your cousin?"

Bashir "No, I have not seen him yet he in in the house. "They will not let him get out" "They will not let me get in."

2 other men Arshad Sahib and Tariq Sahib used to go to market to shop for that compound and bought international brand items. Dates, dried meat found in compound. Also food used to come from compound to Bashir's house Kabulu Pilau and things like that used to be presented to Bashir. They will follow up with more information. In the end the lady is standing in front of Abdullah Bin Zubair mosque. The mosque was with in walking distance of the compound. She asks people if Osama did attend this mosque people would have be happy? The one answered maybe. The other said Osama did "not" live here but he was muslim and believed in God. Interview ends.

Another thing to note is that Bashir mentioned that we are very "sharif" meaning law abiding honest people. His town was a peaceful place no excitement no murders, fights, and he is unhappy how they have made his town so frightful with all this news. One thing is very clear in this video. Two helicopters hovered never landed. One landed dropped Pashto speaking poeple on the roof 10-12 of them Helicopter left fo 20 minutes returned to load people in and small blast engine failure fire helicopter parts all over. Body parts arms, legs, head, all over. Pakistani Army/Police came in dispersed crowd. The whole scene is cleaned up totally now. No evidence left to examine.

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