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Thursday, 30 June 2011
SALE'S KORAN - The Jew, The Gypsy, and El Islam
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Wednesday, 29 June 2011
QUR'AAN, SCIENCE, MOON, DATES ...
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Rebuttals:
Please see section #8 below.
Moon's S-shaped orbit around earth is shaped like a branch of a date tree, mentioned in the Noble Quran and confirmed by Science!
The sections of this article are:
1- Dr. Harun Yahya's proofs.
2- My elaboration.
2- My elaboration.
- كال [kal] ('similar to' or 'looking like').
3- Further Scientific Quotes and Proofs about the S-shaped orbit of the moon.
4- Natural Pictures of date tree branches.
5- What about those date-branches that are shaped like an arch and do not resemble the letter "S"? Do they disprove the Noble Quran's Statement?
- But what about the date-stalks that are straight lines and aren't either archy or S-shaped? Wouldn't they refute the Noble Quran's Statement?
6- Two indisputable proofs from the Noble Quran about Allah Almighty referring to the S-shaped date branches and not just the archy ones.
7- The moon had water and became dry.
- Why did Allah Almighty choose the date branch?
8- Conclusion.
9- Rebuttals.
10- Great articles on the moon.
9- Rebuttals.
10- Great articles on the moon.
1- Dr. Harun Yahya's proofs:
(More scientific quotes and proofs are in section #3 below)
The Noble Quran is filled with scientific statements and notions. These are statements of Allah Almighty describing how He created things on earth and in the Universe. What's most amazing is that all of these scientific statements and notions had been proven to be in perfect agreement with science and our modern-day scientific discoveries. Allah Almighty made the Noble Quran be Prophet Muhammad's (peace be upon him) Everlasting Divine Miracle and proof for Prophethood. The Holy Book certainly stood the test of time 1,500 years ago with Its Claims, Prophecies and Miraculous language eloquence, and it does again and again in our day today with Its overwhelming agreement with science and discoveries that were not known to man 1,500 years ago.
Allah Almighty Said: "We will show them Our signs in the Universe and inside their selves, until it will become quite clear to them that it is the truth. Is it not sufficient as regards your Lord that He is a witness over all things? (The Noble Quran, 41:53)"
With this said, let us look at Dr. Harun Yahya's quote and then I'll give my detailed analysis and more scientific quotes and proofs about the Noble Verse and Its Arabic Words.
(emphasis below are mine)
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2- My elaboration:
(More scientific quotes and proofs are in section #3 below)
Here is what Noble Verse 36:39 says in Arabic and English:
36:39 والقمر قدرناه منازل حتى عاد كالعرجون القديم
Dr. Munir Munshey:
[036:039] And the moon! We destined it to return in stages until it comes back like the dried out branch of the date tree!
Yusuf Ali:
[036:039] And the Moon,- We have measured for her mansions (to traverse) till she returns like the old (and withered) lower part of a date-stalk.
Pickthall:
[036:039] And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she return like an old shrivelled palm-leaf.
Sale:
[036:039] And for the moon have We appointed certain mansions, until she change and return to be like the old branch of a palm-tree.
Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan:
[036:039] And the moon, We have measured for it mansions (to traverse) till it returns like the old dried curved date stalk.
(The rest of the English translations are in section #4 below)
When Allah Almighty said "And the moon! We destined it to return in stages....", He undoubtedly referred to the different orbits that the moon does around the earth. And عاد (comes back) is a very crucial key word here, because as Dr. Harun Yahya demonstrated above, the final stage of the moon's orbit makes it complete an S-shaped cycle which is indeed shaped like an "old (qadeem)", dry and twisted branch of a date tree!
كال [kal] ('similar to' or 'looking like'):
It is also important to know that "kal" كال in "كالعرجون القديم" and also in the Arabic language means:
1- Similar to.
2- Looking like.
3- Appearing as.
4- Being as.
5- Acting as.
6- Resembling.
7- As if it were.
What this means is that the moon's orbit around the earth doesn't exactly have to be a perfect S-shape, because neither does the moon's orbit resemble a perfect "S" according to the scientists' quotes below, nor does an old and twisted date-tree branch as the ample pictures below reveal. Both the orbit and the old branch resemble the English letter "S" and look similar to it. This is also what Allah Almighty Said in Noble Verse 36:39 when He said "kal" كال. The Almighty Said that the moon's orbit, in the end, LOOKS LIKE an old and twisted date-branch.
| Latest Update! From: Detailed Analysis from Lisan Al-Arab (this alone is 10 big books) and 7 other dictionaries proving the Scientific Miracles in the Holy Quran in Great Details. 2- The moon's S-shaped orbit, reflection of light, and the curvy orbits of the celestial bodies:
When the date-tree branches begin to grow, they start out looking archy. As they continue to grow they start arching the other way from the bottom, giving them the look of an English letter S. When they become very old, and begin to dry and die, they would've reached their maximum growth, and in most cases, they resemble the English letter S. Allah Almighty also Said:
المعارج and يعرجون are partially translated here are ascend up. According to 1. Lisan Al-Arab dictionary [1] , Book 2, Page 111. 2. Al-Muheet dictionary [2], Page 194. 3. Al-Muajam Al-Waseet dictionary [3], Page 591. 4. Al-Mawrid dictionary Arabic-English section [4], Page 756. 6. Arabic-English dictionary the Hans Wehr dictionary [6], Page 602. the meaning of AARAJ means the following: اعرج (a'aaraj), which is the root word: person who has a lame leg from a polio disease. He walks lamely. Such person doesn't walk straight. العرجان (al-aarajan): مشية الأعرج (mishyatu al-a'aaraj) the walk of the a'aaraj. العرج (al-aaraj): كالحقب , و هو ان لا يستقيم مخرج البول it means al-haqab, which is when the ejecting of the urine is not straight and is curved (لا يستقيم la yastaqeem). العرج (al-aaraj): غيبوبة الشمس, و يقال إنعراجها نحو المغرب the setting of the sun, and it is said: it's inejaajuha towards the West, which means, it's curved or archy path towards the West. عَرَجَ (aaraja): عريج (aareej): إرتفع و علا raised and ascended up. عرّج تعريج (aarraja taareeja): ميّل (mayyala) made curvy or archy. المُنْعَرَجْ (al-munaaraj): المنعطف (al-munaataf) a curved turn ahead. [So when Allah Almighty Says: الله ذي المعارج , it means that Allah Almighty is the One who Created the archy and curvy orbits and paths of the Universe. They are not straight shots! They are curvy. That's why Allah Almighty chose the Words عرج , يعرجون , المعارج because they all speak about curvy routes to Heaven and not straight ones.] Furthermore, we read: إنعرج الشئ (in'aaraja al-shaya'): إنعطف و مال يَمْنَةً و يَسْرَةً. يقال: إنعرج النهر. Something that curved to the right and to the left. It is said: the river إنعرج (in'aaraja), which means the river curved to the right and to the left. It is not straight. تعاريج النهر (ta'aareej al-nahr): منعطفاته (mun'atafatih) the river's curving points. عَرَجَ (aaraja): to swerve, to zigzag, to follow a zigzag course. تعاريج (ta'aareej): wavy lines. مُنْعَرَجْ (munaaraj): zigzag, winding. So when Allah Almighty Said: 36:39 والقمر قدرناه منازل حتى عاد كالعرجون القديم عرجون is derived from عرج or إنعرج, and it clearly means that the moon's orbit does curve to the right and the left, like the English-letter S! Remember that the English language, and its letter S were not known to Arabia! And as our scientists today say that the moon orbits the earth in S-shaped loops, Allah Almighty also Said that the moon orbits the earth in dry and twisted date-tree branches loops, that curve to the right and to the left, which is S-loops. |
3- Further Scientific Quotes and Proofs about the S-shaped orbit of the moon:
The following articles give ample scientific proofs about the S-shaped orbit of the moon. Let's see if Dr. Harun Yahyah's image and claims about the moon's S-shaped orbit around the earth are confirmed by the non-Muslim scientists and discoveries. Some important key terms in the following articles' quotes refer to the moon's S-shaped orbit around the earth:
1. "eastward drift".
2. "retrograde motion".
3. "nutation".
Article #1:
The following link and image were sent to me by Bassam Zawadi; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
Bassam said: "....if you see the pic of the moon orbit here http://www.scienceu.com/observatory/articles/eclipses/ you would notice that it is moving in an S shape. analyze it carefully."
(Click on any of the images to enlarge)
"Eclipses, be they solar or lunar, occur when the Earth, Sun and Moon are in a line. If the Moon is in-between the Earth and the Sun, it blocks the view of the Sun from some parts of the Earth, and this produces a solar eclipse. If, on the contrary, it is the Earth that is in-between the Sun and Moon, then the earth will block the light from the Sun before it can get to the Moon. Since moonlight is just the light the Moon reflects from the Sun, this will darken the Moon, and we get a lunar eclipse.
Since the Moon goes around the Earth every 28 days, shouldn't we expect a solar eclipse about every 28 days (when the Moon is new), and a lunar one in the same period, (when the Moon is full) ?
Well, this would be so if the orbit of the Moon were in the same plane as the orbit of the Earth around the Sun. But we know eclipses are rarer than that; and the Moon's orbit is not in the same plane. Instead, it is tilted with respect to it, and the Moon does not in general pass directly on the Earth-Sun line. Moreover, the Moon's orbit tilt varies slowly. To have an eclipse, then, it is not enough that the three bodies be in the right order; the Moon's orbit should also be at the right tilt."
The following image and text were taken from: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=1742693:
"This is an animation of the Moon's orbit around the Earth. It was made with Gravity Simulator's 1st order Euler's method. The time step was 16000 seconds. At this time step, the simulation is very innacurate. This would be evident if you look at the Moon's position at a known future date. For example, on August 12, 2045 there will be a total eclipse of the Sun across America. So if I paused the simulation there, I should see the Moon directly between the Earth and Sun. But with the errors introduced by the numerical method, the Moon will likely be elsewhere in its orbit at this time. However, despite the error, many features of the Moon's orbit remain accurate: Its semi-major axis has held constant. Its eccentricity and inclination remained constant as well. And its nodes still precess at their 18 year cycle known as the saros cycle, as evident in this animation. In fact, the saros cycle remains consistent no matter how large of a time step I take as long as it is slow enough that the Moon remains in its orbit."
The orbit looks almost the same as Dr. Harun Yahya's image above:
Loops that resemble the number 8:
And also this image:
The following image was taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_eclipse#Types_of_lunar_eclipses:
The following image was taken from: http://www.timezone.com/library/tmachine/tmachine0005:
These pictures futher demonstrates the changing of the moon's orbit around the earth throughout the months, which makes it resemble S-shaped loops that we see in the first , second and third images above.
Article #2:
The following movie-clip is about the earth orbiting the sun while the moon is orbiting the earth in a series of S-shaped curves, and it was taken from The universe "is full of paths and orbits" film that is listed at the top of this article.
36:39 والقمر قدرناه منازل حتى عاد كالعرجون القديم
And We have decreed set phases for the moon, until it ends up looking like an old date branch. (Qur'an, 36:39)
Notice how the Noble Quran said the phases for the moon's orbit, and didn't just limit it to the orbit around the earth. So the Noble Verse could very well also mean the moon's orbit around the earth while both of them are orbiting the sun as the following two images clearly shows the series of S-shaped orbits of the moon around both the earth and the sun. Now of course, and as the articles below clearly state, the moon's orbit around the earth is also S-shaped by itself. So in either interpretation, Noble Verse 36:39 is clearly and indisputably confirmed.
The following image was sent to me by Bassam Zawadi; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
Also, their source is: Arthur Mee and Holland Thompson, Ph.D., The Book of Knowledge Vol 1 (New York, NY: The Grolier Society, 1912) 147 Map Credit: Courtesy The Private Collection of Roy Winkelman.
The following text and image are located at: http://www.bpastro.org/index.php?page=what-if-anything-is-standing-still:
"Fig. 1: Lunar orbit. The blue grid is the ecliptic plane with the sun at the center. The earth’s orbit is represented by the blue oval. The lunar path is represented by the dotted red spiral."
Again, for the following text-articles, some important key terms refer to the moon's S-shaped orbit around the earth:
1. "eastward drift".
2. "retrograde motion".
3. "nutation".
Article #3:
"The Lunar Month
Another example of compound motions is the Lunar Month, which combines these two motions:
1. The orbit of the Moon around the Earth, which appears as an eastward motion relative to the stars. This takes about 27.3 days to complete one orbit with respect to the stars (the sidereal month).
2. The orbit of the Earth around the Sun, which causes the location of the Sun to slowly move eastward along the Ecliptic." (Source)
1. The orbit of the Moon around the Earth, which appears as an eastward motion relative to the stars. This takes about 27.3 days to complete one orbit with respect to the stars (the sidereal month).
2. The orbit of the Earth around the Sun, which causes the location of the Sun to slowly move eastward along the Ecliptic." (Source)
The moon's orbit around earth appears as an 'eastward motion.' So what is an eastward motion, in general, for any planet? It is an S-shaped orbit as the next article says.
Article #4:
"....the planet appears to speed up relative to the stars and begins moving faster than the stars toward the west, before it settles back into drifting once again toward the east each day. This sudden motion to the west is called "retrograde motion," since the planet seems to be regressing from its eastward drift. In this strange type of motion, the planet forms a looping or S-shaped path against the background of the stars...." (Source)
'Eastward drift' is the same as 'eastward motion'.
Article #5:
"precession of the equinoxes, westward motion of the equinoxes along the ecliptic. This motion was first noted by Hipparchus c.120 B.C. The precession is due to the gravitational attraction of the moon and sun on the equatorial bulge of the earth, which causes the earth's axis to describe a cone in somewhat the same fashion as a spinning top. As a result, the celestial equator (see equatorial coordinate system), which lies in the plane of the earth's equator, moves on the celestial sphere, while the ecliptic, which lies in the plane of the earth's orbit around the sun, is not affected by this motion. The equinoxes, which lie at the intersections of the celestial equator and the ecliptic, thus move on the celestial sphere. Similarly, the celestial poles move in circles on the celestial sphere, so that there is a continual change in the star at or near one of these poles (see Polaris). After a period of about 26,000 years the equinoxes and poles lie once again at nearly the same points on the celestial sphere. Because the gravitational effects of the sun and moon are not always the same, there is some wobble in the motion of the earth's axis; this wobble, called nutation, causes the celestial poles to move, not in perfect circles, but in a series of S-shaped curves with a period of 18.6 years. There is some further precession caused by the gravitational influences of the other planets; this precession affects the earth's orbit around the sun and thus causes a shift of the ecliptic on the celestial sphere. The precession of the earth's orbital plane is sometimes called planetary precession, and that of the earth's equatorial plane (caused by the sun and moon) is called luni-solar precession; the combined effect of the moon, the sun, and the planets is called general precession. Planetary precession is much less than luni-solar precession. The precession of the equinoxes was first explained by Isaac Newton in 1687." (Source)
(Also, their reference/source is: The Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia Copyright © 2004, Columbia University Press. Licensed from Columbia University Press)
The S-shaped curves here are relative to us on earth. From our stand point and perspective here on earth, the moon is orbiting our planet in an S-shaped orbit.
Article #6:
"NUTATION
in astronomy, a slight wobbling motion of the earth's axis. The causes of nutation are similar to those of the precession of the equinoxes, involving the varying attraction of the moon on the earth's equatorial bulge. However, the period of the motion is only 18.6 years, the same as that of the precession of the moon's nodes, as opposed to the nearly 26,000-year period of the precession of the equinoxes. Nutation was discovered by the English astronomer James Bradley in 1728 but was not explained until 20 years later." (Source)
Article #7:
"5.3. Precession of the Lunar Nodes
[41] A higher order difficulty in determining the Earth’s reflectance from the albedo is that the intensity of the earthshine varies with the precession of the lunar nodes. That is, because the gravitational effects of the Sun and Moon are not always the same, there is some wobble in the motion of the Earth’s axis; this wobble, called nutation, causes the celestial poles to move, not in perfect circles, but in a series of S-shaped curves with a period of 18.6 years. This precession of the Moon’s orbital plane has a period of 18.6 years. The sensitivity of the earthshine arises from the anisotropy of the light scattered by the Earth. For example, when the declination of the new Moon is a maximum (some 29 ), and it is near the northern-summer solstice, more of the arctic polar ice cap is visible and the earthshine will be brighter. Some 9 years later, the lunar declination under the same conditions will be only 18 , and the earthshine will be at a minimum. We have performed simulations to study this effect and the results appear in Figure 10 and the Table 1. It is clear from Figure 10 that the nutation of lunar nodes perturbs p* at the 0.0012 level or less, or about five times smaller than the effect of anisotropy." (Source)
Again, the S-shaped curves here are relative to us on earth. From our stand point and perspective here on earth, the moon is orbiting our planet in an S-shaped orbit.
Dr. Harun Yahya's Image is confirmed!
There is no question that Dr. Harun Yahya's scientific claims weren't just a Muslim's biased views to support the Noble Quran. They were rather accurate scientific statements that were clearly and indisputably confirmed by the Western Scientists, as I've clearly demonstrated above.
Below, you'll see ample natural pictures of date branches clearly resembling the letter "S".
It's just quite amazing!
It is truly quite amazing that Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran Said these precise words through the tongue of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, that no ordinary person would've thought about. I mean, who would've been able to come up with such sentences and words 1,500 years ago to describe and comparing the moon's orbit to an old, dry and twisted date branch tree, which is shaped like the English-letter "S" as shown in the next section below, similar to our our scientists today when they describe it as "S-shaped"? Who on earth would've thought about that?? The answer is simple. The Prophet didn't think about anything. He only spoke what was sent down to him from Divine Truth and Revelations! Allah Almighty Said:
"We will soon show them Our signs in the Universe and INSIDE THEIR SELVES, until it will become quite clear to them that it is the truth. Is it not sufficient as regards your Lord that He is a witness over all things? (The Noble Quran, 41:53)"
| The egg-shaped earth's orbit! This is not the only time Allah Almighty used a notion for astronomy. In another Noble Verse, He described the shape of the earth's orbit around the sun as egg-shaped which had also been confirmed by science. Please visit: If the Noble Quran says the earth is "egg-shaped" through a Notion, then why couldn't Prophet Muhammad just say it clear in plain Arabic? with detailed proofs demonstrating the miracle of the Word/Notion "dahaha". |
4- Natural pictures of date tree branches:
(Please see the next main-section #5, below, about "What about those date-branches that are shaped like an arch and do not resemble the letter "S"? Do they disprove the Noble Quran's Statement?")
S-Shaped Date Branches:
Please be advised that the moon's orbit around earth is not really a perfect "S". Scientists said that it resembles the letter "S", but that doesn't mean that it looks perfectly like the English-letter "S". Therefore, the date-branches below don't also have to look like a perfect letter "S". Resembling it would be enough to prove the Divine Miracle of Allah Almighty.
36:39 والقمر قدرناه منازل حتى عاد كالعرجون القديم
And We have decreed set phases for the moon, until it ends up looking like an old date branch. (Qur'an, 36:39)
 |  Click here for emphasis on more branches. |
Dying, dry and twisted date branches that
resemble the English-letter "S". The more
they die-out, the more they naturally and
freely resemble the English-letter "S".
The first image, above, which is also the last one, almost perfectly resembles the
following Scientific image of the moon's orbit:
following Scientific image of the moon's orbit:
Loops that resemble the number 8:
As I've explained in main-section #2 above, كال (kal) means 'looking like' or
'resembling'. Since according to scientists, the moon's orbit isn't a perfect "S",
but a close-enough one, and since an old date-branch isn't also a perfect "S" but
a close-enough one, then this means that the pictures of the old and non-old
date-tree branches, in this section, don't exactly have to look perfectly and exactly
as this scientific image above of the moon's orbit. Being similar to it or resembling
it would certainly suffice, and all of the pictures in this section do perfectly
just that.
'resembling'. Since according to scientists, the moon's orbit isn't a perfect "S",
but a close-enough one, and since an old date-branch isn't also a perfect "S" but
a close-enough one, then this means that the pictures of the old and non-old
date-tree branches, in this section, don't exactly have to look perfectly and exactly
as this scientific image above of the moon's orbit. Being similar to it or resembling
it would certainly suffice, and all of the pictures in this section do perfectly
just that.
  Date branches with all of their dates and the weight of those dates, that pull them down, removed, reveal that the natural curves of the date stalks do indeed resemble the English-letter "S". See the image in its original size (1) [2]:   Notice how naturally curved the date branches are at their ends in both pictures, and how they freely resemble the English-letter "S" when the dates and their weights are completely removed from them.   Again, notice how naturally curved the date branches are at their ends in both pictures, and how they freely resemble the English-letter "S" when the dates and their weights are completely removed from them.
Also, notice in the following picture how the moon's S-shaped orbit looks almost the same as the S-shaped stalks in the pictures above, where the body between the two blue circles, below, is long and the curves that make up the "S" in the two ends are short. Loops that resemble the number 8:  Again, Please see the next main-section #5, below, about "What about those date-branches that are shaped like an arch and do not resemble the letter "S"? Do they disprove the Noble Quran's Statement?" |
| The date-stalk's ends are curvy, and it's general natural look and curves look similar to the following:  The following pictures clearly reveal the curvy ends of the date-stalks: [1] [2] [3] [4a, 4b] [5] [6] [7a, 7b, 7c] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15a, 15b] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23a, 23b] [24] [25] [26a, 26b] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31] [32a, 32b] [33a, 33b] [34a, 34b] [35a, 35b] [36] [37a, 37b] [38] [39a, 39b] [40a, 40b] .... 36:39 والقمر قدرناه منازل حتى عاد كالعرجون القديم And We have decreed set phases for the moon, until it ends up looking like an old date branch. (Qur'an, 36:39) |
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Notice how the fully grown and freely hanging, date branches, that are not tied down and/or pulled down by
any other branches or weight of date-fruits resemble the English-letter "S".
any other branches or weight of date-fruits resemble the English-letter "S".
Notice how the freely-hanging, fully grown, dry, and almost-dead date-branch almost perfectly resembles the
English-letter "S", while the other shorter ones are close enough.
English-letter "S", while the other shorter ones are close enough.
Film:
This is brief film-clip of slowly bringing down date-tree stalks via ropes. The film clearly reveals how the
natural curves of the date-stalks resemble the English-letter "S".
This is brief film-clip of slowly bringing down date-tree stalks via ropes. The film clearly reveals how the
natural curves of the date-stalks resemble the English-letter "S".
Click on any of the images to play the film.
Click on an image to see the original.
Picture of dead, dry and twisted date-tree branches that resemble wavy curves that look
like the English-letter "S". The red circles are the nodes where the date fruits used to hang
from to further prove that this image is not forged and that these are indeed real dead
date-branches. I did this because the pictures didn't look as clear as the others.
The dead branches resemble the following image of the moon's orbit:
Closing tightly: The corner of each curve will curve and close more and more tightly as the branch
dries out. This will cause for all of the branches above to be much closer to the resemblance of the letter
"S". The curving is a natural result with all tree-branches and leaves in general. Remember that Allah
Almighty compared the Moon's orbit with an "an old date branch" and not just a normal and young one.
Two pictures of one palm-tree of a different palm-fruit carrying dry, curvey,
and S-shaped stalks/branches.
Notice here how the branches on the left and the center have the curves of snakes or the letter "S". Now,
the reason why the one on the outside far right looks like an arc is because the angel of the camera didn't
do it justice. But notice, however, the sections that I've circled in the image and how they're twisted and
curved like the letter "S". When the branches all dry out and die, their curves start getting more and more
twisted and resembling to the letter "S". Again, remember that Allah Almighty compared the Moon's
orbit with an "an old date branch" and not just a normal and young one.
the reason why the one on the outside far right looks like an arc is because the angel of the camera didn't
do it justice. But notice, however, the sections that I've circled in the image and how they're twisted and
curved like the letter "S". When the branches all dry out and die, their curves start getting more and more
twisted and resembling to the letter "S". Again, remember that Allah Almighty compared the Moon's
orbit with an "an old date branch" and not just a normal and young one.
And again, the moon's orbit around earth is not really a perfect "S". Scientists said that it resembles the
letter "S", but that doesn't mean that it looks perfectly like the English-letter "S". Therefore, the
date-branches don't also have to look like a perfect letter "S". Resembling it would be enough to
prove the Divine Miracle of Allah Almighty.
letter "S", but that doesn't mean that it looks perfectly like the English-letter "S". Therefore, the
date-branches don't also have to look like a perfect letter "S". Resembling it would be enough to
prove the Divine Miracle of Allah Almighty.
Allah Almighty's description of the "phases/stages" of the moon's orbit as an "old (qadeem)" and dried out "branch of a date tree," and the scientists' description of the orbit as S-shaped only prove that the Noble Quran is indeed a Divine Revelation from Allah Almighty. And as we clearly see below, all of the English translations of Noble Verse 36:39 accurately translated كالعرجون القديم as old dried out branch of a date tree.
From http://www.answering-christianity.com/cgi-bin/quran/quran_search1.cgi?search_text=36%3A39&B1=Search:
| Noble Verse(s) 36:39 |
| Yusuf Ali: [036:039] And the Moon,- We have measured for her mansions (to traverse) till she returns like the old (and withered) lower part of a date-stalk. Dr. Munir Munshey (one of www.answering-christianity.com's authors): [036:039] And the moon! We destined it to return in stages until it comes back like the dried out branch of the date tree! Transliteration: [036:039] Waalqamara qaddarnahu manazila hatta AAada kaalAAurjooni alqadeemi Arabic (from right to left): 36:39 والقمر قدرناه منازل حتى عاد كالعرجون القديم Sher Ali: [036:039] And for the moon WE have appointed stages, till it becomes again like an old dry twig of a palm-tree. Shakir: [036:039] And (as for) the moon, We have ordained for it stages till it becomes again as an old dry palm branch. Pickthall: [036:039] And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she return like an old shrivelled palm-leaf. Sale: [036:039] And for the moon have We appointed certain mansions, until she change and return to be like the old branch of a palm-tree. Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan: [036:039] And the moon, We have measured for it mansions (to traverse) till it returns like the old dried curved date stalk. Palmer: [036:039] And the moon, we have ordered for it stations, until it comes again to be like an old dry palm branch. Arberry: [036:039] And the moon -- We have determined it by stations, till it returns like an aged palm-bough. Khalifa: (why is he here?) [036:039] The moon we designed to appear in stages, until it becomes like an old curved sheath. Rodwell: [036:039] And as for the Moon, We have decreed stations for it, till it change like an old and crooked palm branch. |
Indeed, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty alone!
5- What about those date-branches that are shaped like an arch and DO NOT resemble the letter "S"? Do they disprove the Noble Quran's Statement?
I've noticed that among the date-stalks' bunch (either dry and twisted or not) that not all of them resemble the English-letter "S". Some of them are archy and sometimes even short. So would this now disprove the Noble Quran's Statement?
Answer:
Absolutely not for the following reasons:
1- Allah Almighty never Said that every single existing date-tree-stalk on the face of this earth is shaped the same. In all of Allah Almighty's creations, there are always variations in looks, behaviors and characteristics among every group of creation. So it is only normal and natural to expect and anticipate differences among the date-tree-stalks' looks, lengths, colors and other characteristics.
2- Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran Said:
36:39 والقمر قدرناه منازل حتى عاد كالعرجون القديم
And We have decreed set phases for the moon, until it ends up looking like an old date branch. (Qur'an, 36:39)
If we actually look at all of the old, dry and twisted date-stalks (or branches or strands), we would see that many of them naturally resemble the English-letter "S", and that some of them do look archy and others even look like straight lines. In the case of the moon's orbit around the earth, it visibly appears archy to us. To the ordinary person, 1,500 years ago, the moon orbited the earth in a circle. No one could have ever imagined that the moon's orbit around the earth is S-shaped, and when we know today that many of the old, dry and twisted date-stalks do also resemble the English-letter "S", then we are left with a stunning Divine Miracle from the Noble Quran, because, yes, while the moon's orbit is archy, but it is still also S-shaped, which is a more comprehensive description of the moon's orbit. The beautiful thing about this is that the S-shaped date-tree-stalks do encompass both.
Also, as we've seen with the ample pictures above, it is indeed a true statement to say that the natural curves and looks of the date-tree-stalks, either when they're young or when they dry-out, do indeed resemble the English-letter "S". We are not talking about exceptions here or 1 stalk out of a 1,000. I've looked at countless pictures of date-stalks' bunches on the internet and all of them had many curved and twisted branches that resembled the English-letter "S" along with other branches that were archy and also straight lines. In fact, in the very first date-stalk picture, above, where they've made and positioned the stalk to look like the English-letter "S", proves that the common thought about the shape of the date-tree-branches or stalks is that they do indeed resemble the English-letter "S". This picture along with most of the other ones, above, were all taken from non-Muslim Western commercial web sites. So they are definitely not for proving the Noble Quran so that they would doctor the picture, - not that I am claiming that we Muslims are liars who doctor pictures or anything like that.
So yes, the moon's orbit around the earth is both archy and S-shaped, and both cases combined perfectly confirm Allah Almighty's Divine Statement in the Noble Quran. All Praise and Glory are due to Him alone.
But what about the date-stalks that are straight lines and aren't either archy or S-shaped? Wouldn't they refute the Noble Quran's Statement?
Again, absolutely not, because even to man, 1,500 years ago, the moon's orbit around the earth never looked like a straight line. So those stalks must be excluded because they do not represent anything.
And again, as I mentioned in point #1, above, Allah Almighty never Said that every single existing date-tree-stalk on the face of this earth looks the same. In all of Allah Almighty's creations, there are always variations in looks, behaviors and characteristics among every group of creation. So it is only normal and natural to expect and anticipate differences among the date-tree-stalks' looks, lengths, colors and other characteristics.
The very fact, though, that Allah Almighty made it clear in the Noble Quran that the sun's and the moon's orbits are different from each others [1], while to man, 1,500 years ago, they both looked the same just going around in endless circles, clearly and indisputably proves that Allah Almighty's Statement in the Noble Quran is indeed a stunning Divine Miracle in the Noble Quran! Again, all Praise and Glory are due to Him, the Almighty, alone.
Notes for this section:
1. Allah Almighty Said that the moon's orbit is like an old and twisted date-tree branch. However, Allah Almighty never said anything about the shape of the sun's orbit. Not only that, but Allah Almighty also Said that the day and the night, and the sun and the moon, each swims in its orbit:
"And He is the One Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Each is afloat in its orbit. (The Noble Quran, 21:33)"
Yet, the moon's own orbit is different from the others because it is shaped like a date-branch.
Not only that, but notice how Allah Almighty Said that He Created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Scientists today have indeed confirmed that it is the day-layer that processes and reveals the sun's brilliant rays, because the sun's brilliant rays in outer space are very dark blue, and they are not shining. That is why the space is absolutely black during our brightest day on earth. Allah Almighty Said:
"By the sun and its radiant light, and the moon that trails (and reflects) its light. By the day that reveals its brightness. (The Noble Quran, 91:1-5)"
I have provided ample Noble Verses from the Noble Quran, and ample Scientific quotes, pictures, and even a movie-clip that thoroughly demonstrate the Truthfulness of this Noble Verse. Please visit:
So yes, indeed, it is not the sun that reveals our day, but rather, it is the day that processes reveals the sun's radiant lights. So yes, indeed, the night and the day, and the sun and the moon are all swimming in their orbits and they are each doing their own different and unique tasks that complement each others by Allah Almighty's Magnificent Design, Wisdom and Will.
6- Two indisputable proofs from the Noble Quran about Allah Almighty referring to the S-shaped date branches and not just the archy ones:
As we've clearly seen above, the date branches, whether dry and twisted or not, do resemble:
1- S-shaped curves.
2- Archy curves.
3- Just plain straight lines.
So which one did Allah Almighty mean? And why and how?
Answer:
The first proof:
To man 1,500 years ago, the sun and the moon were orbiting the earth in endless circles. The sun's orbit was the bigger circle than the moon's because people witnessed eclipses where the moon comes in front of the sun, blocks its rays, and turns the day into a night. There are ample Noble Verses from the Noble Quran and Sayings (Hadiths) from Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, that talked about eclipses [1]. So this was a known fact to man 1,500 years ago.
So what does this mean? Well, there is certainly a Divine Purpose for Allah Almighty to only Say that the moon's orbit is shaped like an "old and twisted date branch" and never mentioned anything about the sun's orbit. Why didn't Allah Almighty mention anything of this sort about the sun's orbit around the earth? Didn't the sun and the moon's orbits look the same to man 1,500 years ago and even to us today? I mean, to the ordinary, aren't the sun's and the moon's orbit no more than endless circular motions around the earth? So if the moon's orbit is shaped like an "old and twisted date branch" then this should make the sun's orbit the same thing to man 1,500 years ago. Right?
This certainly would've been true if Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was a liar and the Noble Quran wasn't revealed by Allah Almighty. But because Prophet Muhammad is a True Messenger from GOD Almighty, and because the Noble Quran is a True Divine Revelation from GOD Almighty, Allah Almighty only talked about the moon's orbit and not the sun's, because they are both different. Allah Almighty Said:
"We will soon show them Our signs in the Universe and inside their selves, until it will become quite clear to them that it is the truth. Is it not sufficient as regards your Lord that He is a witness over all things? (The Noble Quran, 41:53)"
Certainly, the moon's orbit being different from the sun's is a Sign from Allah Almighty "in the Universe" for us, and there are tens (10s) more topics with 100s of Noble Verses, combined, that were revealed to us throughout the Noble Quran. Since man have discovered that the sun's orbit and the moon's orbit are completely different from each others, and since Allah Almighty PRECISELY Chose to only talk about the moon's orbit being S-shaped and since scientists today have demonstrated and proven that the moon's orbit around the earth is S-shaped, and the moon's orbit around the sun is also in an endless S-shaped loop, then we have indeed a Stunning Noble Verse and a Divine Miracle in Noble Verse 36:39:
36:39 والقمر قدرناه منازل حتى عاد كالعرجون القديم
And We have decreed set phases for the moon, until it ends up looking like an old date branch. (Qur'an, 36:39)
The second proof:
If Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was indeed a liar, and if the Noble Quran was indeed a Book not from Allah Almighty, then we wouldn't have seen ample Scientific Miracles in the Holy Book. We, instead, would've seen scientific blunders in It:
"Do they not ponder on the Qur'an? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy. (The Noble Quran, 4:82)"
The very fact that Allah Almighty Chose to Say "old and twisted date branch" and not just "date branch" for the moon's orbit proves that there is a Divine Message, Purpose and Wisdom in this Noble Verse, especially that when Allah Almighty only Said it about the moon and didn't include the sun with it. We have already seen how the freely hanging date branches - when they become dry and twisted - they resemble the English-letter "S": [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7a, 7b] [8] [9]. And we have also seen the ample scientific proofs in both pictures and text (quotes from scientists) that have demonstrated and proven how the moon's orbit around the earth indeed resembles the English-letter "S", and how the moon's orbit around the sun is also swimming in S-shaped loops.
So undoubtedly, the main characteristic of the moon's orbit, whether around the earth or the sun, is that it is shaped like the English-letter "S". I just find it to be indeed very stunning that Allah Almighty Said this about the moon's orbit alone and the characteristics of the moon's orbit alone 1,500 years ago when man had absolutely no idea and no clue about this fact. Indeed, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty alone.
Notes for this section:
1. The following sample Hadiths and Noble Verse prove that eclipses were known to man 1,500 years ago:
Narrated Asma' bint Abu Bakr: "The Prophet ordered us to free slaves at the time of solar eclipses. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 46, Number 695)"
Narrated Abu Bakra: "The solar eclipse occurred while we were sitting with the Prophet He got up dragging his garment (on the ground) hurriedly till he reached the mosque The people turned (to the mosque) and he offered a two-Rak'at prayer whereupon the eclipse was over and he traced us and said, "The sun and the moon are two signs among the signs of Allah, so if you see a thing like this (eclipse) then offer the prayer and invoke Allah till He remove that state," (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 72, Number 676)"
"And the moon is eclipsed. (The Noble Quran, 75:8)"
7- The moon had water and became dry:
It is important to know that the some of the Noble Verses in the Holy Quran could have multiple interpretations to them, and all of those interpretations are true at the same time. Noble Verse 36:39 seems to fit this well:
36:39 والقمر قدرناه منازل حتى عاد كالعرجون القديم
And We have decreed set phases for the moon, until it ends up looking like an old date branch. (Qur'an, 36:39)
The Arabic word عاد (ended up, returned) is both a simple past and a past tense. What this means is that the Noble Verse could also be referring to an event that took place in the past.
Date is a desert fruit. The fruit and its branches are known to store water for survival:
In fact, it is said that if you travel in the desert and you're carrying dates with you, then you wouldn't need to drink much from your water, because eating dates will help quench your thirst and boost your energy due to the water, sugars, vitamins, minerals, and all of the other energy materials such as hormones and others that they contain. Dates have everything your body needs to keep you alive.
The moon used to have water. The moon too used to have water in its interior until it all dried out: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]....
Please visit: Another seven good Miracles in the Holy Quran.
Why did Allah Almighty choose the date branch?
There is certainly a Divine Wisdom and a big reason for why Allah Almighty chose to compare the moon and its orbit to a desert fruit's branch. And all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the more we discover about both the moon and the date fruit, the more we see that the parable was indeed a great example with much Divine Knowledge, Wisdom and Truth in it.
I believe the reason why Allah Almighty chose the date-fruit branch for the parable is because:
1- The date-fruit branch, when it dries up, it does resemble the English-letter S, which is what the moon's orbit looks like.
2- The date-fruit branch, when it starts growing up, it looks like an arch (crescent), and then as it ages, it starts curving from the bottom making it resemble the English-letter S as shown in the 10s (tens) of pictures above.
3- The date fruit and its branch, like a camel, store much water for later use to enable them to survive the unforgiving desert's extreme heat and lack of much water. While other desert plants like the cactus and cactus fruit also store water, but their branches are not anywhere near resembling the moon's S-shaped orbit.
I am sure there are other reasons that I can't think of right now. All Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone!
8- Conclusion:
Again, the Noble Quran is filled with scientific statements and notions. These are statements of Allah Almighty describing how He created things on earth and in the Universe. What's most amazing is that all of these scientific statements and notions had been proven to be in perfect agreement with science and our modern-day scientific discoveries. Allah Almighty made the Noble Quran be Prophet Muhammad's (peace be upon him) Everlasting Divine Miracle and proof for Prophethood. The Holy Book certainly stood the test of time 1,500 years ago with Its Claims, Prophecies and Miraculous language eloquence, and it does again and again in our day today with Its overwhelming agreement with science and discoveries that were not known to man 1,500 years ago.
Allah Almighty's comparison of the moon's orbit around the earth with the shape of an old and dried-out branch of a date tree is truly amazing! No man could've possibly thought about this 1,500 years ago, because the S-shaped orbit of the moon around our planet was not known to man back then. On the contrary, man thought that the earth was flat and that the sun and the moon were rotating around it in perfectly circular motion. Not only that, but in some of the far eastern pagan scriptures such as in Hinduism, they are even taught that the earth has two holes at its "ends" that the sun goes through during its rising and setting! Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran, on the other hand, described the earth as egg-shaped [2] [3], and talked about its motion in space and around its own axle in numerous Noble Verses [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]. And now, the Almighty GOD perfectly described for us how the moon orbits our planet earth!
Also, scientists have recently confirmed that the moon used to have water in its interior. Desert fruits and their branches do also store water in their interiors to survive the hot and unforgiving desert. Allah Almighty's parable of the moon going through phases until ends up looking like or being like a date-tree branch is also Miraculous, because both the moon and an old date-tree branch are dry and dead. And both used to have water and life in them.
Indeed, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty alone for making the Noble Quran be the Perfect and Everlasting Miracle, for us humans, out of all of His Divine Miracles! And may Allah Almighty send His Peace, Mercy and Blessings upon our Beloved and Blessed Prophet, Teacher and Role Model, Muhammad. Ameen.
9- Rebuttals:
Some polytheist trinitarian pagans tried to refute this article by claiming that people of old, before Islam, knew of the moon's different positions in regards to orbiting the planet earth. Thus, the Noble Quran's Claim is not a big deal or is not Miraculous.
My Response:
It is true that people of old, before Islam, knew of the moon's different positions in regards to orbiting the earth. That is why they had eclipses and that is why they had lunar and solar year-calculations. But none ever claimed that the moon's orbit around the earth is S-shaped or shaped like an old and twisted date-tree branch or shaped like any Latin alphabet that resembled the English-letter S. Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was an illiterate Bedouin who lived in the desert. He also didn't know this fact, nor did anyone in Arabia or elsewhere. It was Allah Almighty Alone Who Knew it and mentioned it to mankind in His Divine Revelation, in the Noble Quran, before astronomers today discover it. That is why Allah Almighty Promised and Prophesized in the Holy Quran:
"We will show them Our signs in the Universe and inside their selves, until it will become quite clear to them that it is the truth. Is it not sufficient as regards your Lord that He is a witness over all things? (The Noble Quran, 41:53)"
The polytheist trinitarian pagans failed to provide a single claim from the people of old, before Islam or even after Islam, about the moon's orbit being shaped like a date-tree branch or an English letter S. It was our astronomers who just recently confirmed this fact that already existed in the Holy Quran 1,500 years ago. All what the pagans did was provide an explanation on how people calculated the moon's orbit for lunar date calculations.
Furthermore, I challenge the pagans to provide us with something similar to the Noble Quran's Stunning Divine Claim in their pornographic bible; the book that literally sings glory and praising songs about women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine"; the book of she wished if her lover (boyfriend) was her brother so that she wouldn't have to take him home in secrete to "our bed" (their bed that is); and the book of 100s of textual, scientific and historical contradictions and errors in it.
As to pagans' claim about the Noble Verse's text being too vague and that we are reading the Divine Miracle into it, please refer to sections 1, 2, 5 and 6 above for detailed analysis of the Arabic text, and the comparison of the sun's and the moon's orbits in the Noble Quran.
Therefore, the polytheist trinitarian pagans' arguments fail and Islam wins. All Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone!
| Latest Rebuttal Update! From: Detailed Analysis from Lisan Al-Arab (this alone is 10 big books) and 7 other dictionaries proving the Scientific Miracles in the Holy Quran in Great Details. 2- The moon's S-shaped orbit, reflection of light, and the curvy orbits of the celestial bodies:
When the date-tree branches begin to grow, they start out looking archy. As they continue to grow they start arching the other way from the bottom, giving them the look of an English letter S. When they become very old, and begin to dry and die, they would've reached their maximum growth, and in most cases, they resemble the English letter S. Allah Almighty also Said:
المعارج and يعرجون are partially translated here are ascend up. According to 1. Lisan Al-Arab dictionary [1] , Book 2, Page 111. 2. Al-Muheet dictionary [2], Page 194. 3. Al-Muajam Al-Waseet dictionary [3], Page 591. 4. Al-Mawrid dictionary Arabic-English section [4], Page 756. 6. Arabic-English dictionary the Hans Wehr dictionary [6], Page 602. the meaning of AARAJ means the following: اعرج (a'aaraj), which is the root word: person who has a lame leg from a polio disease. He walks lamely. Such person doesn't walk straight. العرجان (al-aarajan): مشية الأعرج (mishyatu al-a'aaraj) the walk of the a'aaraj. العرج (al-aaraj): كالحقب , و هو ان لا يستقيم مخرج البول it means al-haqab, which is when the ejecting of the urine is not straight and is curved (لا يستقيم la yastaqeem). العرج (al-aaraj): غيبوبة الشمس, و يقال إنعراجها نحو المغرب the setting of the sun, and it is said: it's inejaajuha towards the West, which means, it's curved or archy path towards the West. عَرَجَ (aaraja): عريج (aareej): إرتفع و علا raised and ascended up. عرّج تعريج (aarraja taareeja): ميّل (mayyala) made curvy or archy. المُنْعَرَجْ (al-munaaraj): المنعطف (al-munaataf) a curved turn ahead. [So when Allah Almighty Says: الله ذي المعارج , it means that Allah Almighty is the One who Created the archy and curvy orbits and paths of the Universe. They are not straight shots! They are curvy. That's why Allah Almighty chose the Words عرج , يعرجون , المعارج because they all speak about curvy routes to Heaven and not straight ones.] Furthermore, we read: إنعرج الشئ (in'aaraja al-shaya'): إنعطف و مال يَمْنَةً و يَسْرَةً. يقال: إنعرج النهر. Something that curved to the right and to the left. It is said: the river إنعرج (in'aaraja), which means the river curved to the right and to the left. It is not straight. تعاريج النهر (ta'aareej al-nahr): منعطفاته (mun'atafatih) the river's curving points. عَرَجَ (aaraja): to swerve, to zigzag, to follow a zigzag course. تعاريج (ta'aareej): wavy lines. مُنْعَرَجْ (munaaraj): zigzag, winding. So when Allah Almighty Said: 36:39 والقمر قدرناه منازل حتى عاد كالعرجون القديم عرجون is derived from عرج or إنعرج, and it clearly means that the moon's orbit does curve to the right and the left, like the English-letter S! Remember that the English language, and its letter S were not known to Arabia! And as our scientists today say that the moon orbits the earth in S-shaped loops, Allah Almighty also Said that the moon orbits the earth in dry and twisted date-tree branches loops, that curve to the right and to the left, which is S-loops. |
Also and as I have demonstrated in great details in the earlier section above, scientists have recently confirmed that the moon used to have water in its interior. Desert fruits and their branches do also store water in their interiors to survive the hot and unforgiving desert. Allah Almighty's parable of the moon going through phases until ends up looking like or being like a date-tree branch is also Miraculous, because both the moon and an old date-tree branch are dry and dead. And both used to have water and life in them.
All Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone!
10- Great articles on the moon:
Here are some nice articles on the moon and its orbit:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6885614.html
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2001DPS....33.1605S
http://www.lunarplanner.com/HCpages/Venus.html
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2001DPS....33.1605S
http://www.lunarplanner.com/HCpages/Venus.html
| The egg-shaped earth's orbit! This is not the only time Allah Almighty used a notion for astronomy. In another Noble Verse, He described the shape of the earth's orbit around the sun as egg-shaped which had also been confirmed by science. Please visit: If the Noble Quran says the earth is "egg-shaped" through a Notion, then why couldn't Prophet Muhammad just say it clear in plain Arabic? with detailed proofs demonstrating the miracle of the Word/Notion "dahaha". |
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