Monday, 28 June 2010


Dedicated to David Icke
The not so deluded Prophet

I was watching David Icke’s The Robot’s Rebellion (presented by Matthew Williams), a live two hour talk to a not very receptive audience (that greeted him with a somewhat timid applause) in Liverpool, at the Neptune Theatre, on 11 October 1994. I read many of David’s very fascinating and factual books, and watched countless hours of his talks and interviews. I dedicated the second chapter of my unpublished (never-to-be-published) book “The Alien Beginning and End of Humankind” to him and entitled it “David Icke the Deluded Prophet”. But, although this is a correct description of David as far as Islam is concerned, it lacks generosity, compassion and is unfair to the colossal amount of work, effort, time, pain, courage, dedication and selflessness he has put in his struggle (Jihaad) to bring to the whole world (especially the western world) the truth about many things. I had some problems with David regarding his relentless attack on “dogmatic and established religions”. But, after listening (again?) to the Robot’s Rebellion (I had read the book), I have to change my title to “The Great David Icke”, thanks to one particular piece in it (at 44 minutes) where David reads out an extract from a thick document found in 1986 ‘by accident’ in a second-hand bought IBM copier and called “SILENT WEAPON FOR A QUIET WAR”.

This document described a policy of mass public mind control that has been orchestrated on the people of the world, particularly the western world, since the 1950s. David reads an extract from it:
“Experience has proven that the simplest method of securing a silent weapon and gaining control of the public is to keep the public undisciplined and ignorant of basic systems, principles on the one hand while keeping them confused, disorganised, and distracted with matters of no real importance on the other hand.
This is achieved by

1. Disengaging their minds, sabotaging their mental activities, providing a low quality programme of education in mathematics, logic, systems, design and economics and discouraging technical creativity.

2. Engaging their emotions, increasing their self indulgence and their indulgence in emotional and physical activities by

A. Unrelenting emotional affrontations and attacks (mental and emotional rape) by way of a constant barrage of sex, violence and wars in the media, especially in the tv and the newspapers.

B. Giving them what they desire in excess, junk food for thought, and depriving them of what they really need.

3. Rewriting history and law and subjecting public opinion to the deviant creation (which I take to mean don’t tell them who they really are), thus being able to shift their thinking from personal needs to highly fabricated outside priorities.

These preclude their interest in and discovery of the silent weapon of social automation technology. The general rule (it says) is that there is profit in confusion. The more confusion, the more profit. Therefore, the best approach is to create problems and then offer solutions.


MEDIA: Keep the adult public attention diverted away from real social issues and captivated by matters of no real importance. (Does that describe our media, today, or what?)

SCHOOLS: Keep the young public ignorant of real mathematics, real economics, real law, and real history.

ENTERTAINMENT: Keep the public entertainment below a Sixth Grade Level.

WORK: Keep the public busy, busy, and busy with no time to think, back on the farm with the other animals.

I have said thank you many times to David about his Jihaad for the Truth although it is impossible to agree 100% with what he wrote or said. I do not even agree with 100% of what I wrote! Is there anyone you know who can be proven 100% right? Not even GOD, so to speak! I say thank you to David again and if anybody out there wants to dismantle Jewish monopoly on everything we do: breathe, move, ‘own’, eat, drink, breathe, and believe in, without first neutralising this silent weapon for a quiet war, we will achieve nothing, absolutely nothing!

Some or many people do not like Mark Glenn, David Icke, Texe Marrs, Ted Pike, Kent Hovind, Eric Hufshmid, Christopher Bollyn, Edward Saïd, Daryl Bradford Smith, Alex Jones, Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, Yakub Zaki, Alan Dershowitz, Abe Foxman, Roger Garaudy, Roger Dommergue, Michael Hoffman, Eustace Mullins, Howard Zinn, Arundathi Roy, and the list is endless. But, each one in his or her own way taught me certain important things. The worst among them and at the top of the list are, of course, Alan Dershowitz and Abe Foxman (not forgetting the media whores)!
This gives me an opportunity to thank Mark Glenn again, and pray for the welfare of his loved ones.

Monday 28th of June 2010

Ghyslaine ROC June 28, 2010 at 9:30 am
Well, I wish to thank Mark too for allowing us to post here. Mark is doing a great job. Please, continue to support him. He is a great and quite rare human being.


David Icke's Fitna

Announcement from Ummah Forum and posted by Masooma

I found this on a muslims website whilst I was looking to see if any Muslims has heard of David Icke as I visited his website and was horrified at what i was reading at some of his comments in regards to those who follow Islam, I have posted this which i came across on the internet for people to have a read of, also I have posted up an email I sent to David Icke myself on his website, let me know what you sisters and brothers think.


We are going through a period of time when Muslims have become the target of various conspiracies and plots to attack their Imaan. These attempts are made in such a subtle and deceptive form that many of our brothers and sisters are caught completely unaware. Hence, it has become our duty to immediately inform the Ummah at large should we become aware of any such devious conspiracies.
The latest such attempt has come in the form of one David Icke. In order to gain a basic idea of his views and his outlook on Islam and our beloved Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam), let us examine a few excerpts from his writings. A book "Robots Rebellion" by David Icke contain the following material:
"Mahomet said God has also chosen him to pass on this message, and those who accepted it would be saved on Judgement day. Sound familiar? All of these apparently opposing religions (Islam, etc.) were started by Lucifer (Devil) in his many forms." (page 89)
"Terrible violence became the means of advancing Mahomet's cause. He changed in character into a tyrant as his religious beliefs and a highly negative energy took him over. So what caused this sudden change? It could have been that he simply became power hungry." (page 89)
"There is a great deal of good sense to be found in the Koran among all the Dross." (page 90)
"I have to smile when I hear Moslem religious leaders speaking on the radio, and everytime they say 'The Prophet Mohammed' they follow immediately with 'Peace and blessing upon him'. I am all for peace and blessings on everyone, including those who Mahomet and his followers murdered in the name of God and those still kept in mental and physical bondage by Moslem fanatics today." (page 91)
This individual is currently in South Africa giving lectures and seminars at which a number of his books, cassettes and videos are being sold. We have been reliably informed that a number of our people, Muslim brothers and sisters, are attending these seminars. We must strongly advise the Ummah to completely abstain from such discourses.
Al-Jamiat Publications

My email in reply to his appauling words on his website and what he believes in.

Just like to say that we Muslims do not disagree with a separate entity which exists, we believe in it, we do not see it as a reptile, we see it as a separate entity what we call Ifrit (which are composed of mostly fire), which can exist in many forms, they have the ability to fly and they can interact with mankind and even marry them, some are not so devious as others, they can take on the form of a human, we do not deny their existence, we also do not follow multiple gods, what we Muslims call polytheism, which is something that is apparently showing in your words with your constant use of the word “gods” in plurality, in relation to these reptilian personalities who existed and have mingled with the human race!!! You call them gods but they are not gods, they are Ifrits-Jinns, and the kingdom of the Ifrits. Neither are they spirits nor neither are they ghosts, they are Jinns.

One Ifrit which also you seem to be so fanatic in calling a serpent, as you have taken it from the Biblical text reference, which we Muslims do not comment on, we do not comment on the form of the Ifrit, what form he appeared to Adam as, what shape Ifrit was. Whatever shape or form the ifrit came in is not important to us, what is important to us, is what its aim is. At the time of the creation of Adam, an Ifrit felt he was a greater entity than Adam, he did as such to try and obscure Adam from the truth. We Muslims believe in the authority of Adam on earth, he was not created on earth but he was created to be placed on earth; Ifrit existed before his creation, as did the angels. Ifrit never would bow down to mankind, which would be placed on earth, who would teach the words of God, he would oppose him. He felt that he was king; he was made of fire and Adam of clay, he was superior to Adam, better than him and wished to bring Adam down and also delude him.

Ifrit also believes in God and look at his behaviour to the other creation, mankind, and look at how many leaders resemble him, who also say they believe in God yet oppose Gods very words, and the worst thing is that people are beginning to resemble the thinking of these very leaders, who are starting to resemble them in their greed and their power hungry tactics, who are being sucked in by the kingdom of the Ifrit, call it THE GODS, call it whatever you want, Islam teaches us that the kingdom of the Ifrit will send you down, HE HAS AN AIM…and that is to take people to where he is going to go in the end. Muslims do not wish to be sucked in by this kingdom, they do not wish to resemble these leaders, they wish to resemble those who spoke against polytheism, those who spoke against the mischief of the Ifrit, THE mischief of the DEVIL, and if they tell people about this, then they are called mad, something which you are so much inclined to saying yourself, about yourself!!! This kingdom, which you constantly talk about of the gods, is not what any prophet came to preach and be power hungry over. I always say….there are two sides to everything….we have the side of those whom are being mislead into this abyss of power madness and are becoming swallowed by the tactics of the DEVIL and his henchman, or should I say the gods of mischief!!! (Sarcasm) or reptilians!!!! Or serpents!!! Or whatever!!! They are your road to hell, and there is the other side who will follow and always follow those who were fighting against all this, POLYTHEISM in its true form, manipulated and transformed into the minds of others through IBLIS (DEVIL) himself, your master of power and kingship, your master of your so called freedom!!! And desire!!!!

Prophet Abraham’s father, Taraq, passed away, so Azar, his father’s brother, adopted him. Abraham would address him as his father although he was not his real father. Azar was a famous sculptor who used to make idols out of stone. His sons used to sell these idols to the people.

Abraham (Ibrahim AS) said:

O my father! serve not the Shaitan, surely the Shaitan is disobedient to the Beneficent Allah:
O my father! surely I fear that a punishment from the Beneficent Allah should afflict you so that you should be a friend of the Shaitan.
He said: Do you dislike my gods, O Ibrahim? If you do not desist I will certainly revile you, and leave me for a time.
He said: Peace be on you, I will pray to my Lord to forgive you; surely He is ever Affectionate to me:
(Quran 19:44-47)
Also, before you talk about Prophet Muhammad I suggest you learn more about his life and the life of the prophets.

Your ignorant comments from Your own Book: "Robots Rebellion" by David Icke;

"Terrible violence became the means of advancing Mahomet's cause. He changed in character into a tyrant as his religious beliefs and a highly negative energy took him over. So what caused this sudden change? It could have been that he simply became power hungry." (page 89)

Muhammad (pbuh) was a man who faced much trouble, stones would be thrown at him, he would be called mad!!! He would be spat at, he left his own town because the polytheists, those who believe in the multiple gods, were doing this to him, calling him a lunatic, and did the same to his people, they offered him money, said they would make him a king if he left this message he was teaching but he did not, he would never leave it as most Muslims who know what they are following, the deeply sincere NEVER will, as I myself never will.

{I swear by the name of God, O Uncle!, that if they place the sun in my right-hand and the moon in my left-hand in return for giving up this matter (calling people to Islam), I will never desist until either God makes it triumph or I perish defending it.} Al-Serah Al-Nabaweyyah, Ibn Hesham, The biography of the Prophet (pbuh) vol. 1, pp. 265-266

Muhamad (pbuh) was a poor man, not power hungry, but wished to teach the way of the one true god, the one true authority and his law established for the betterment of society and mankind, not the way of the multiple gods, whom are the people you seem to be so fanatic about addressing as reptilian hybrids!! Another thing, was Jesus rich? Was Moses rich? Were they interested in the hoarding of money and fraud banking for their countries? Did they wish to rape nations of their treasures and keep it for themselves???!!!! Or did they teach to give to the poor, fast, observe patience and abstinence???!!!! They were not power hungry and self-centred men, they wanted the good for the people. Muhammad’s (pbuh) family and people were being persecuted and killed, they were being treated in the harshest way, they were left hungry and no one cared, imagine you and your family, your people were being persecuted and killed, would you not want retribution, would you not want justice to be done? The polytheists would always want to attack the Prophet (pbuh) and his people and wanted him dead, under these circumstances what could the Prophet do? A call to defend oneself is not a call to wanting riches, use your sense!!! Also if you knew what justice is, you would not be writing such pathetic jargon in your website and books!!! I suggest you understand yourself what it is that you are following, and what madness you seem to be portraying, for the madness of the prophets is the real opposition we are facing, they are the ones who were called mad and lunatic and I follow them, being a Shia sister who was not a Shia before, as you have said that Muslims only follow what their parents have taught them, well my parents do not acknowledge what I acknowledge, so am I following my parents?? I researched myself, like you are so inclined to saying for yourself, who found the TRUTH, again, as you are so inclined in saying about yourself, and one other thing, thinking yourself to be Jesus itself is indeed blasphemous, and you yourself doesn’t even believe in the prophets and their message!!! Calling them liars and people of the devil!!! Then calling yourself one of them really is totally beyond me!!! I suggest you read what Muhammad (pbuh) has said about this beloved prophet (Jesus) of ours, no prophet came to teach what you seem to be so profusely propagating, they taught the good of mankind, the keeping away from this dirt and kingship of the Devil, the keeping away of the following and inclination of multiple god worship, the teaching of good verses evil, also I am in the process of writing a book myself, but because you are not in inclined to the one true god, you would never read it.

Adam was taught the first of Gods words when he was created the angels questioned Allah in regards to this creation in which Allah gave them a reply:

30 Behold thy Lord said to the angels: "I will create a vicegerent on earth." They said "Wilt thou place therein one who will make mischief therein and shed blood? Whilst we do celebrate Thy praises and glorify Thy holy (name)?" He said: "I know what ye know not." 47

31 And He taught Adam the nature of all things; then He placed them before the angels and said: "Tell Me the nature of these if ye are right." 48
32 They said: "Glory to Thee of knowledge we have none save that Thou hast taught us: in truth it is Thou who art perfect in knowledge and wisdom."
33 He said: "O Adam! tell them their natures." When he had told them Allah said: "Did I not tell you that I know the secrets of heaven and earth and I know what ye reveal and what ye conceal?"
And behold We said to the angels: "Bow down to Adam"; and they bowed down not so Iblis he refused and was haughty he was of those who reject Faith. 49

35 We said: "O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the garden and eat of the bountiful things therein as (where and when) ye will but approach not this tree or ye run into harm and transgression.

Quran Surah Baqarah 2 Verses 30-34

There is a deep exegesis (commentary) to these verses of the Qur’an, which you have no understanding of, you sound like an atheist and who is into aliens and nothing more, your biggest downfall in all of this is your rejection in the supreme authority.

This is from my book, which is being edited right now.
“Imâm Ja’far as-Sadiq AS who is one of the Imâm’s whom the Shî‛ah Ithna ‛Asheri adhere to, narrated in regards to this:

As-Sâdiq (AS) said: “The angels could not know what they said (Wilt Thou place in it such as shall make mischief in it and shed blood), if they had not (earlier) seen someone who had made mischief in it and shed blood.” (At-Tafsir, al-‘Ayyâshi)” Tafsîr al-Mizân (An Exegesis of the Holy Qur’ân), By Allâmah Tabataba’î.

Allâmah Tabataba’î, who is a highly respected scholar of Tafsîr for the Shî‛ah’s, states in his Tafsîr al-Mizân (An Exegesis-explanation of the Holy Qur’ân) in regards to the above tradition:

Allâmah Tabataba’î says: “This tradition may be pointing to an earlier creature that inhabited the earth before the mankind, as some other traditions say. It is not against what we have said that they understood it from the very words of Allâh: ‘Verily, I am going to make in the earth a vicegerent;’ rather the tradition and our explanation are complementary.””----excerpt from my book

This is taken from your own Book: "Robots Rebellion" by David Icke

"Mahomet said God has also chosen him to pass on this message, and those who accepted it would be saved on Judgement day. Sound familiar? All of these apparently opposing religions (Islam, etc.) were started by Lucifer (Devil) in his many forms." (page 89)

The devil is against you and me and the devil has no religion, he will not stop until the world ends, he was against Moses and to whom was Moses opposed to, you are intelligent enough to know that it was Pharoah and his wanted kingdom!!!! The kingdom of Ifrit is against Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, actually he is against the whole of mankind!!!!!!! Remember who was against Adam?? Who envied him????!!!! Was it Muhammad or was it the devil??? Did Muhammad teach against what Adam followed? Did Muhammad follow the deviations of the Ifrit or did he teach the following of the one true authority, which EVERYONE including yourself is so obstinate in opposing????!!!! It is the leaders in this day and age who are so actively multiplying themselves to claim dominion because of their devious disgusting minds that we are fighting against, as did our prophets in succession of one another ending with the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and we will continue to until the end of time, we will see to whom victory lies. Adam is part of Islam and Adam is the first of all prophets, you do not believe in the succession of prophets and neither do you believe in the one true authority that these prophets came to teach, to keep people away from the games of the Ifrit and the evil of his kingdom. You have no idea where you yourself is going. We have a choice, what we wish to resemble, that which teaches you to let go of the Ifrit or that which guides you to HIM, choose the red or the blue pill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Taken from your website, quite a good eye catcher may I say, but what really is the matirx……think again!!!!

I leave you with these words of the Qur’an because I have wasted enough time in writing this to you.

33 (Iblis) said: "I am not one to prostrate myself to man whom thou didst create from sounding clay from mud molded into shape."
34 (Allah) said: "Then get thee out from here; for thou art rejected accursed.
35 "And the Curse shall be on thee till the Day of Judgment." 1972
36 (Iblis) said: "O my Lord! Give me then respite till the Day the (dead) are raised." 1973
37 (Allah) said: "Respite is granted thee
38 "Till the Day of the Time Appointed."
39 (Iblis) said: "O my Lord! because Thou hast put me in the wrong I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them on the earth and I will put them all in the wrong 1974 1975
40 "Except Thy servants among them sincere and purified (by Thy grace)."
41 (Allah) said: "This (Way of My sincere servants) is indeed a Way that leads straight to Me. 1976
42 "For over My servants no authority shalt thou have except such as put themselves in the wrong and follow thee."
43 And verily Hell is the promised abode for them all!

Qur’ân Surah Al-Hijr Verese 33-43


He who does not believe in the creator will certainly never see this, as his mind does not recognise the creation of jinn and mankind, the creation of Adam and Iblis, the creation of heaven and hell, the creation of the earth and the planet to have been all created by Him.




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